Face Masks Make You Stupid

[baffled]

My dad either had a minor stroke last night or the second injection royally fucked him up. He ran a fever of 101, with Tylenol.

Couldn't find the word for his arm or hand, got belligerent, couldn't walk on his own and I had to lift him into bed. When I got over there my mom was on the phone with the advice line through their medical insurance and they were at a loss.

He's still sleeping at the moment.

Oddly enough, I'm still glad he got both injections. Assuming he didn't have a stroke, he'll be better off and able to fight infection in a way that his compromised immune system otherwise couldn't.

There's precisely zero chance I'll be getting this shit though. Johnson & Johnson or bust, brah.

Oh no dude! Did you get him to a doctor?

The doctor on call felt like it was most likely a reaction to the vaccine and/or his dementia causing some sort of episode and to keep an eye on him, so we watched him until after 3 this morning. He's had some odd episodes before, and we suspect maybe a mini stroke or two.

My guess is with the fever, the doctor didn't suspect a stroke, and with the confusion there may have been worry about it actually being Covid. I'll try to get a nap and ask a few more questions. We're all exhausted. My girlfriend had a really rough recovery from surgery

He's got an appointment with his GP in a little bit.

I still think the mRNA injections are a good idea for people like him: old, weak, and immunocompromised. But, for those of us that are young(er) and healthy there's no fucking way I'd think that was a good idea.

[nafod]

My dad either had a minor stroke last night or the second injection royally fucked him up. He ran a fever of 101, with Tylenol.

Couldn't find the word for his arm or hand, got belligerent, couldn't walk on his own and I had to lift him into bed. When I got over there my mom was on the phone with the advice line through their medical insurance and they were at a loss.

He's still sleeping at the moment.

Oddly enough, I'm still glad he got both injections. Assuming he didn't have a stroke, he'll be better off and able to fight infection in a way that his compromised immune system otherwise couldn't.

There's precisely zero chance I'll be getting this shit though. Johnson & Johnson or bust, brah.

Sorry to hear about your father, jeez...

My wife got the first Pfizer shot yesterday. She's on the couch with chills today.

The J&J is a single shot like the AstraZeneca that everyone is now worried about causing clots.

Interesting statistical fact, if you give out enough shots per day you'll have people dying the day after they get the shot because they would have died anyway. Especially elderly people. Of course the natural impulse is to think causation.

A lot of uncertainty in the decision making.

[Fat Cat]

The doctor on call felt like it was most likely a reaction to the vaccine and/or his dementia causing some sort of episode and to keep an eye on him, so we watched him until after 3 this morning. He's had some odd episodes before, and we suspect maybe a mini stroke or two.

My guess is with the fever, the doctor didn't suspect a stroke, and with the confusion there may have been worry about it actually being Covid. I'll try to get a nap and ask a few more questions. We're all exhausted. My girlfriend had a really rough recovery from surgery

He's got an appointment with his GP in a little bit.

I still think the mRNA injections are a good idea for people like him: old, weak, and immunocompromised. But, for those of us that are young(er) and healthy there's no fucking way I'd think that was a good idea.

Man, so sorry to hear all that. It will be interesting to see what the GP says when he examines him. Good luck dude.

[lasalle]

I still think the mRNA injections are a good idea for people like him: old, weak, and immunocompromised. But, for those of us that are young(er) and healthy there's no fucking way I'd think that was a good idea.

So sorry to hear about all of that. Good luck!

I'm 55 and fit-I got my first Moderna dose yesterday. I feel totally fine-worked out last night and don't have any residual effects, including the sore arm everyone complains about.

By contrast, my mom got it 3 days ago. She's early 70's, and a physical disaster (obese, broken femur plus bipolar thrown in for good measure). The first dose absolutely destroyed her. She's been on her back since 12 hours after the first injection. I'm very concerned with how the second will go, as everyone I've talked to says the second one is the real bitch.

Anyway, based on a sample size of 2, I'm thinking your strength going into the injection plays a huge part in how it treats you.

[lasalle]

Honest answer? I don't know yet. I have had plenty of vaccines in my life, but I don't get flu shots. If I started to feel threatened by COVID-19--currently I don't--or it prohibited me from travel, I probably would.

Ah-that's interesting. Do you work in a situation where your employer could potentially require it?

My prediction is that if you want to travel abroad later this year or in 2022, you'll need to show proof of vaccination. But tbd, obviously.

[baffled]

I still think the mRNA injections are a good idea for people like him: old, weak, and immunocompromised. But, for those of us that are young(er) and healthy there's no fucking way I'd think that was a good idea.

So sorry to hear about all of that. Good luck!

I'm 55 and fit-I got my first Moderna dose yesterday. I feel totally fine-worked out last night and don't have any residual effects, including the sore arm everyone complains about.

By contrast, my mom got it 3 days ago. She's early 70's, and a physical disaster (obese, broken femur plus bipolar thrown in for good measure). The first dose absolutely destroyed her. She's been on her back since 12 hours after the first injection. I'm very concerned with how the second will go, as everyone I've talked to says the second one is the real bitch.

Anyway, based on a sample size of 2, I'm thinking your strength going into the injection plays a huge part in how it treats you.

The odd thing is that the people who have been younger and more fit have had a harder time from the people I've talked to... Except for my dad.

He was fine other than a little soreness in his injection arm, and then this episode. He's still all fucked up and they were supposed to visit his dying sister in Hawaii this Sunday and had to postpone the trip because he's so weak.

My mom got tired from the first one and is really hesitant to experience the second now, but she's going to do it because at 69 and healthy, she's still in a high risk group.

[baffled]

The doctor on call felt like it was most likely a reaction to the vaccine and/or his dementia causing some sort of episode and to keep an eye on him, so we watched him until after 3 this morning. He's had some odd episodes before, and we suspect maybe a mini stroke or two.

My guess is with the fever, the doctor didn't suspect a stroke, and with the confusion there may have been worry about it actually being Covid. I'll try to get a nap and ask a few more questions. We're all exhausted. My girlfriend had a really rough recovery from surgery

He's got an appointment with his GP in a little bit.

I still think the mRNA injections are a good idea for people like him: old, weak, and immunocompromised. But, for those of us that are young(er) and healthy there's no fucking way I'd think that was a good idea.

Man, so sorry to hear all that. It will be interesting to see what the GP says when he examines him. Good luck dude.

GP wasn't thrilled, but figured between his various ailments and dementia that the episode was probably brought on primarily through the fever and maybe the immune response, but nobody really knows. That's the hard part of everything.

Like I'd posted earlier, he has had similar experiences in the past, but lacking the fever.

[baffled]

Honest answer? I don't know yet. I have had plenty of vaccines in my life, but I don't get flu shots. If I started to feel threatened by COVID-19--currently I don't--or it prohibited me from travel, I probably would.

Ah-that's interesting. Do you work in a situation where your employer could potentially require it?

My prediction is that if you want to travel abroad later this year or in 2022, you'll need to show proof of vaccination. But tbd, obviously.

I've got no interest in traveling if they only way to do so is by showing proof of vaccination. Just the numbers alone should remove that hurdle.

If we have a certain number of known vaccinations and recoveries, we'd be at herd immunity and it shouldn't matter.

[nafod]

Having got the vaccine, it is definitely a load off my mind. I worry far less about being that guy that is spreading it to others, and not at all about getting sick if I actually get it. It's nice.

[baffled]

Ok

[nafod]

If we have a certain number of known vaccinations and recoveries, we'd be at herd immunity and it shouldn't matter.

I think there's enough people feeling similar that we aren't going to get there. In which case, probably better to get the Made In China version now than wait for the Brazil Cut. The variants are proving more dangerous.

Reminds me of this Onion article

Report: 98 Percent Of U.S. Commuters Favor Public Transportation For Others
11/29/00 3:00PM

WASHINGTON, DC–A study released Monday by the American Public Transportation Association reveals that 98 percent of Americans support the use of mass transit by others.

"With traffic congestion, pollution, and oil shortages all getting worse, now is the time to shift to affordable, efficient public transportation," APTA director Howard Collier said. "Fortunately, as this report shows, Americans have finally recognized the need for everyone else to do exactly that."

Anaheim, CA, resident Lance Holland, who drives 80 miles a day to his job in downtown Los Angeles, was among the proponents of public transit.

"Expanding mass transit isn't just a good idea, it's a necessity," Holland said. "My drive to work is unbelievable. I spend more than two hours stuck in 12 lanes of traffic. It's about time somebody did something to get some of these other cars off the road."

[lasalle]

If we have a certain number of known vaccinations and recoveries, we'd be at herd immunity and it shouldn't matter.

I totally get that sentiment, but my take is that you're in for a long wait. There are some reports of people being infected twice (given the new variants). We have to get well into the 70% range (if not greater than that).

WTF knows-time will tell. But in the meantime, I'm feeling like getting it was the right thing to do, and here in the Bay Area I won't be at all surprised when companies start requiring vax proof to return to the office, and some states (Hawaii?) and certainly countries require it for inbound travel.

[Fat Cat]

Ah-that's interesting. Do you work in a situation where your employer could potentially require it?

My prediction is that if you want to travel abroad later this year or in 2022, you'll need to show proof of vaccination. But tbd, obviously.

No, our company is family owned. As for travel requirements, I would not be surprised.

[baffled]

I do some work for the county and they tried to mandate vaccines but backed off. I also work for myself so I won't be mandating it for... myself.

[Turdacious]

Probably gonna be a whole new ballgame once the vaccines get full approval— if they ever do.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... ilots-quit

[nafod]

Probably gonna be a whole new ballgame once the vaccines get full approval— if they ever do.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... ilots-quit

From the article...ouch

at least one anthrax shot (of the six-dose regimen)

I didn’t have to get it by the time I deployed.

[baffled]

Just a quick update, but my dad is still fucking wasted.

My girlfriend's mom is in her 50's and she's just got a sore arm and neck and a slight fever, but seems okay otherwise. My mom got fucking cranky for a day and then seemed fine. Her next jab is early April, I think.

I'm still not getting it until the J&J shot is available again here. I'm also going to a seminar this coming weekend and I'll be outside.

[Fat Cat]

Just a quick update, but my dad is still fucking wasted.

My girlfriend's mom is in her 50's and she's just got a sore arm and neck and a slight fever, but seems okay otherwise. My mom got fucking cranky for a day and then seemed fine. Her next jab is early April, I think.

I'm still not getting it until the J&J shot is available again here. I'm also going to a seminar this coming weekend and I'll be outside.

Sorry about your dad, homie. I'll keep my fingers crossed he pulls it together.

[Lych]

No, because then you can contact trace and quarantine it. Like the winning countries have done.

No, you can't, dumbass. How many millions of people are in this country illegally? Pull your head out. Also, please name the "winning countries" for me.

stop hiding behind your illegal alien argument, dipshit. North and South Dakota have 10 between them, yet they were cesspools of Covid.

... we have a lot more than 10. They flock up here as laborers for companies that power and process plants hire. They are the scaffolders, the hydroblasters, the insulators, etc. I live in a town of 3,000. At any given time, there are 100-300 immigrant laborers at 2 or 3 of the mines or coal plants in this county. Most of them drive here from TX, as I see TX plates all the fucking time.

cesspools of COVID? ... not once during the panic porn of 'rona has any hospital in ND been at max capacity. No matter what MSM tells you.

Source: I fucking live here, and know a number of people in healthcare in Bismarck, Dickinson, and my brother in law is an EMT in Grand Forks.

I'll probably never see your reply since I come here not often at all. I just had to peruse the covid stuff and it is clear, nafod, you have swallowed the big blue dick of fear and bought whole hog into what you've been fed. I could have pulled most of your posts from a CNN twitter feed. You're not following science. You're cherry picking shit that supports your posts. Doubtful you even could use a search engine for anything except trying to find things that justify your opinion.

Lastly, it is absolutely reasonable to be resistant to having a non-reversible medical procedure performed on you. Particularly when there is a push to mandate it. If this would have been rolled out more reasonably, ie, as an option, there is a chance I might have gotten vaccinated. I had 'rona in August. Didn't even know it except for getting swabbed due to being exposed to someone who had it. It did nothing to me. Has >99% survivability. But when someone wants to mandate something... force me to do something... you can fuck right the hell on off. And your chest greasy aggressives don't help one goddamn bit. The angrier you get, the more me and people like me will dig our heels in. So if you really think Covid is so dangerous, then maybe consider people not getting vaxxed is the fault of assholes like you and your pushy, condescending attitudes. How many deaths are you responsible for, you fucking idiot? BTW, only a fool would call Ivermectin, a drug that won the nobel prize for its use in humans, 'horse de-wormer'.

Fatcat, you still rock balls. Your posts are funny as hell.

[Ronald RayGun]

I know for an absolute fact that the fly ass Wu-Tang mask I wear is 100% for show. Pure thin cotton theatre. That shit isn't protecting anyone from anything aside from my taste in music.

[nafod]

Lastly, it is absolutely reasonable to be resistant to having a non-reversible medical procedure performed on you.

Holy shit you’re stupid.

Getting Covid = having an irreversible procedure done on you too, probably by the Chinese communist party.

We had to shut our ER down for a time here, because of dumb fucking unvaccinated morons like you clogging up the hospital. No ambulances, no walk-ins, just directions to the next-nearest hospital 40 miles away. Enjoy the ride. The hospital is still at its limit.

That’s what happens when a disease that has a 7% hospitalization rate hits millions upon millions of idiots.

I say this on behalf of all the medical personnel working through the holidays on double shifts treating dumbasses like yourself.

[Lych]

...and more than 18 months later what are we finding out about the vaccine?

[Luke]

...and more than 18 months later what are we finding out about the vaccine?

Yep...

Side note: sometimes I think IGx was COVID casualty with how it divided people here.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Yeah, there are some people who made some bad assumptions then got so entitled by them.

[motherjuggs&speed]

I'd be surprised if anyone stopped posting because of the plandemic arguments. It's not like we were talking about BBQ sauce.