This was a time when a successful raid meant your people ate and lived comfortably in the winter vs. just surviving or losing family to these people. It helps when you find people to raid who's beliefs and deity disgusts you.
I know where you are coming from and I kinda agree, but... How do murder peasants and rape their wives help your people to eat and live comfortably? It seems the kind of bonus Tyrone would like.
My point is: the exact same excuses apply to both Ragnar Lothbrock and Jax Teller. That's the world we've always lived in and that's not going to change in the foreseeable future.
I'm not jugding the ancient ways the world used to get ruled by, all I'm saying is that today may be not that much different. Being born and raised in a ghetto might give you the perfect excuse to behave like a thug.
It's a fact that most back women from the ghettos are mistreated. And it's something almost customary. But I'm sure hitting a woman just because you can is something you frown upon. But for them it's perfectly acceptable. So where do we draw the line?
You ever seen a cycling plumber who wrestles with small calves, forearms and neck? Didn't think so.
Turd, as former military man, I can assure you I'm no fucking pacifist.
In fact, it's quite the opposite: I would nuke almost all the current problematic countries and exterminate selective groups of dangerous people who freely choose to live outside the laws, so we can start with a clean slate. And I don't particularly care that tens of millions of innocent people would die. And, yes, that makes me a son of a bitch. So what?
I'd rather live in a much secure and much less populated planet, where I could take a plane carrying my EDC and children would not be shot while playing at the park.
You ever seen a cycling plumber who wrestles with small calves, forearms and neck? Didn't think so.
This was a time when a successful raid meant your people ate and lived comfortably in the winter vs. just surviving or losing family to these people. It helps when you find people to raid who's beliefs and deity disgusts you.
I know where you are coming from and I kinda agree, but... How do murder peasants and rape their wives help your people to eat and live comfortably? It seems the kind of bonus Tyrone would like.
My point is: the exact same excuses apply to both Ragnar Lothbrock and Jax Teller. That's the world we've always lived in and that's not going to change in the foreseeable future.
I'm not jugding the ancient ways the world used to get ruled by, all I'm saying is that today may be not that much different. Being born and raised in a ghetto might give you the perfect excuse to behave like a thug.
It's a fact that most back women from the ghettos are mistreated. And it's something almost customary. But I'm sure hitting a woman just because you can is something you frown upon. But for them it's perfectly acceptable. So where do we draw the line?
Maybe you should start a thread about the attitudes and sociology of ghetto trolls? Probably a better place than a thread about a TV show that assumes you view with an understanding of their times and not today. Though I think many possible solutions to modern problems as well as warnings can be found in history Ragnar and Jax Teller are very far apart and Jax over rationalises his shit because his world is still a sub world of the current one and a lot of his shit would get him killed by his own in the real biker world.
Ragnar knows exactly what he is and the world he lives in and where he wants to take things. All he agonises over is personal shit.
You murdered peasants and raped their women because the next time you rolled up, they just paid you off a lot of the time from a practical level and with a faith that was very inward looking there was nothing wrong with killing peasants or raping their women. If it was not right, then they would have been able to defend themselves or do the same to you.
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Turd, as former military man, I can assure you I'm no fucking pacifist.
In fact, it's quite the opposite: I would nuke almost all the current problematic countries and exterminate selective groups of dangerous people who freely choose to live outside the laws, so we can start with a clean slate. And I don't particularly care that tens of millions of innocent people would die. And, yes, that makes me a son of a bitch. So what?
I'd rather live in a much secure and much less populated planet, where I could take a plane carrying my EDC and children would not be shot while playing at the park.
Then we agree on a lot of things. And one could navel gaze and worry about how those people you would nuke feel about shit?
I understand the Iranians feel they have a right to atomic weapons. All the more reason to give them some, detonated over their heads or deep in their research and storage facilities.
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DARTH wrote:I understand the Iranians feel they have a right to atomic weapons. All the more reason to give them some, detonated over their heads or deep in their research and storage facilities.
Amen to that. Somalia, Yemen and practically all the Stans too. And Detroit.
You ever seen a cycling plumber who wrestles with small calves, forearms and neck? Didn't think so.
Turd, as former military man, I can assure you I'm no fucking pacifist.
In fact, it's quite the opposite: I would nuke almost all the current problematic countries and exterminate selective groups of dangerous people who freely choose to live outside the laws, so we can start with a clean slate. And I don't particularly care that tens of millions of innocent people would die. And, yes, that makes me a son of a bitch. So what?
I'd rather live in a much secure and much less populated planet, where I could take a plane carrying my EDC and children would not be shot while playing at the park.
I'm lost. Why were you criticizing the Vikings again?
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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:you realize this is a show written by modern man about vikings, right?
By the way... I kinda expected more historical accuracy from the so-called History channel.
Well History Channel has become a History Based Entertainment channel as well as an Ancient Aliens bullshit channel (It pisses me off that the changed History International, a great historical channel to H2 aka more of the kind of shit on History but more fucked up.
And lot's of the stories of Ragnar and his family come from Nordic mythology and not historical record. So I am just glad Thor does not show up swinging his Hammer.
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SubClaw wrote:Thing is... you substitute Ragnar for D-Shawn, Lagertha for Shaniqua and Kattegat for Detroit and the story is just the same. And when vikings raid, murder and rape is kinda cool but if they happen to be modern gangstas, suddenly it's not cool anymore.
Double standards anyone?
Lol. I have an uncle (half Icelandic), who likes to call modern Icelanders "niggers of the north", due to their proclivity for having children out of wedlock and giving them made up names.
This helps explain where that tendency comes from.
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SubClaw wrote:Thing is... you substitute Ragnar for D-Shawn, Lagertha for Shaniqua and Kattegat for Detroit and the story is just the same. And when vikings raid, murder and rape is kinda cool but if they happen to be modern gangstas, suddenly it's not cool anymore.
I would love to see a show about viking gangsters raiding Detroit.
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SubClaw wrote:Thing is... you substitute Ragnar for D-Shawn, Lagertha for Shaniqua and Kattegat for Detroit and the story is just the same. And when vikings raid, murder and rape is kinda cool but if they happen to be modern gangstas, suddenly it's not cool anymore.
I would love to see a show about viking gangsters raiding Detroit.
I would love to see a show about anybody or anything raiding Detroit.
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Meh...
Meh is right. Those are fucking floppy. What about all the other chicks that have shown their hooters on that show? Do you have picks of them, too? I need to compare.
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