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So it's a winning issue just not in application? Well, Democrats still win more actual voters, so in a system that isn't designed to favor the poor put-upon rurals... But even then, yes, it's a winning application. Perhaps you've heard of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama? Rightly or wrongly, Hillary l...

i read this to suggest he thinks hillary's message in effect propped up "white identity" politics. How did they need to be propped up any more is my question - in 2012, Democrats lost white people overall 59-39, in 2004 58-41. There is nothing Democrats can do to swap that - the GOP is to...

would it then be fair to say neither knows much about the other? No, I think if you took the average liberal/urban voter and gave them a multi-part quiz on life in the other, they'd be wildly more accurate than if you quizzed the kind people of Podunk about the big cities. If nothing else, because ...

Burlington progressives are more aware of what goes on in the hills than the crackers are of what happens in the cities. Why is only one side inundated with this whining? A bad candidate running a bad campaign would be President if not for vote-switching in the last week after the FBI interfered. Th...

Jeff Sessions as AG - I do enjoy the number of stoners who voted for Trump and are now realizing what the fuck is up.

Lilla's not entirely wrong but there are some gaping holes in his argument. The question isn't either/or - you can be socially progressive (which is a winning issue despite his warnings) with economic progressivism/populism (also a winning issue), the Democrats have simple failed over the past twent...

It still means something - it means that more Americans chose her. There's no legal weight behind that but it should color the political landscape. More Americans voted for Democrats this time around in the Senate (by an enormous margin) as well, as has become common for the last 25 years. It's the ...

Which cities did BLM destroy? Destroy might be too strong a word. But there were riots in Milwaukee, Charlotte, Cincy, Daytona,etc. While I agree with some parts of their platform. Not a good visual for middle America. That was what I was going for - destroyed is simply incorrect. There were riots,...

did she get more votes? yes or no? Yes, but try to think about this... what if some people in states like California, Massachusetts, etc. just didn't vote because they knew there was no way Trump would win their state even if they voted? c'mon dude, you're smarter than this. How many Hillary voters...

Which cities did BLM destroy?

Not all that much less straightforward - Trump might campaign in California to pick up votes but Hillary would campaign in Texas, yada yada yada. Given that the electoral college disadvantages the population centers where Democrats win, that math is unlikely to benefit Republicans. Both could happil...

One small point - a larger number of people hated Trump more than HRC. More people in lower-populated states with an Electoral College advantage hated Trump less.

Even inside of those red states with more people than cows, cities went blue. In Texas alone, Dallas County broke the 60% mark for Clinton, Travis/Harris/Bexar were right there.

It's not a geographic divide, it's a population density divide.

Entire giant red states have the population of a decent city. Their existence as state-level entities is an accident of history we'll all be saddled with.

Trump won because less than a hundred thousand people in a few areas who made up their minds at the last minute voted for him. His support is actually quite soft even in those areas - 40% of the country might be willing to give him a pass on anything but another 5-8% will jump off the bus at the fir...

Wait, that's your response to citations about bipartisan efforts, incoherent babbling about getting polls wrong?

I think I was grading you too harshly on the ignorance/deception thing.

So, are chucklefucks like this ever going to express dismay and disappointment, or will it just be a stream of excuses? https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/15/im-the-trump-supporter-pollsters-missed/?tid=pm_opinions_pop&utm_term=.7e8e341149b0 Highlights: "[Obama] and hi...

Mhmm, just like pl54 read about Van Jones's felony record and prison term (I think the wingnuts had him confused with Malcolm X - black men all looking alike and such).

I haven't said anything about an increase in hate, I don't believe. No evidence of a spike in bigotry of any kind over recent years, likely overall decline because young people and urban dwellers are growing demos and both are, statistically, far less bigoted than rural and suburban dwellers who pri...

Which podcast, which person? If BLM can even be said to have a leadership, the most likely names are Shaun King and DeRay Mckesson. Was it one of them? What, specifically, was said? Ohhhh man, mass shooting reference! What's the ethnic and gender makeup of the average mass shooter over the last, say...

I'd also venture that anyone driving through a Confederate state without seeing any rebel flags is trying to not see them. I live in a red-state city that only broke 51/49 for Trump - and I see rebel flags daily. T-shirts, license plate holders, bumper stickers, couple of people flying them on flagp...

Anecdotes are not data. "I seen white folk and black folk together" is meaningless. Who are these BLM leaders saying kill whitey? Do people of other ethnicities say stupid shit about white people? Sure. Not even an uncommon occurrence necessarily - do you know what a key difference is, tho...

I'm curious how many successful businessmen got nailed for fraud and racketeering.