Entire Russian team--387 athletes--banned from Rio Olympics for state sponsored doping

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The entire Russian Olympic team will today be banned from competing at the Rio Games next month, The Mail on Sunday understands.

According to well-placed sources, the International Olympic Committee will punish all 387 Russian sportsmen and women in the strongest possible way after revelations of their country’s state-sponsored doping programme shocked the world.

The country’s corrupt track and field stars have already been banned from the Games, and last week lost a desperate legal challenge to overturn that The entire Russian Olympic team will today be banned from competing at the Rio Games next month, The Mail on Sunday understands.

According to well-placed sources, the International Olympic Committee will punish all 387 Russian sportsmen and women in the strongest possible way after revelations of their country’s state-sponsored doping programme shocked the world.

The country’s corrupt track and field stars have already been banned from the Games, and last week lost a desperate legal challenge to overturn that decision.

But today’s ruling – the most momentous in Olympic history – will see Russia’s medal hopes in cycling, judo, wrestling and all other disciplines excluded from competition in the wake of the scandal.

The controversy involved President Vladimir Putin’s sports ministry handing out cocktails of steroids and covering up tainted urine samples ahead of the 2012 London Olympics.
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Just like 1980 Summer Olympics boycott.
Cold war returned.

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Wild Bill wrote:Just like 1980 Summer Olympics boycott.
Cold war returned.
Your female swimmers have huge penises
Don’t believe everything you think.

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=D> =D>
nafod wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Just like 1980 Summer Olympics boycott.
Cold war returned.
Your female swimmers have huge penises
You`ll toughen up.Unless you have a serious medical condition commonly refered to as
"being a pussy".

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I guess enough death threats were sent to family members of the IOC to rethink a total ban.
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nafod wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Just like 1980 Summer Olympics boycott.
Cold war returned.
Your female swimmers have huge penises
yeah
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Apparently not the whole team.

Rio 2016: Russian team will not face blanket ban from Olympics after doping scandal, IOC says
The world governing body's ruling 15-member executive board met on Sunday via teleconference and decided that responsibility for ruling on the eligibility of Russians remains with the international federations.

"We have set the bar to the limit," IOC president Thomas Bach said after the meeting, defending the action against the worst doping scandal in the Olympic movement's history.

The Russian athletics team was already banned from Rio for state-sponsored doping, and the IOC also rejected a bid by Russian whistleblower and 800-metre runner Yuliya Stepanova to compete as a neutral athlete after the ban.

"However, the IOC EB would like to express its appreciation for Mrs Stepanova's contribution to the fight against doping and to the integrity of sport," the IOC Executive Board said.

Russia's Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko said the decision cleared the way for Russian participation.
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Good article on the topic of sport scandals:

We can't handle the idea that sport is no longer just sport
The surprising thing about each professional sports scandal isn't the scandal itself, but the fact that anyone is surprised.

This week we were all shocked, shocked, to learn that (a) professional tennis players have been fixing matches for years, and (b) despite compelling evidence of this, the sport's regulators have done nothing much about it.

For the true believers, it's been a rotten few years.

Lance Armstrong is a drug cheat, along with who knows how many other elite cyclists; football is rotten all the way to the top, as is the entire Russian athletics industry and the global body supposedly policing it.

Doping is rampant in Australian football; does anyone really think it started and finished with Essendon and Cronulla? We've known about chronic match fixing in cricket for many years now. Boxing is an ill-concealed joke.

Can you name a sport untainted by drugs or corruption? Only the ones where there's no money.
I have never heard of a doping or result-fixing scandals in ultra marathons or Lacrosse. Mind you, there even been scandals in Girevoy Sport in Russia - switching to lighter bells, doping etc. I guess the desire to win is imprinted hard in human psyche, even if it is an argument on Irongarm.
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Ultra Cycling and Ultra running have had their dust ups. I used to wonder if tennis wasn't pretty clean as it is so skill dependent...throw that notion out.
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Sangoma wrote:Apparently not the whole team.

Rio 2016: Russian team will not face blanket ban from Olympics after doping scandal, IOC says
The world governing body's ruling 15-member executive board met on Sunday via teleconference and decided that responsibility for ruling on the eligibility of Russians remains with the international federations.

"We have set the bar to the limit," IOC president Thomas Bach said after the meeting, defending the action against the worst doping scandal in the Olympic movement's history.

The Russian athletics team was already banned from Rio for state-sponsored doping, and the IOC also rejected a bid by Russian whistleblower and 800-metre runner Yuliya Stepanova to compete as a neutral athlete after the ban.

"However, the IOC EB would like to express its appreciation for Mrs Stepanova's contribution to the fight against doping and to the integrity of sport," the IOC Executive Board said.

Russia's Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko said the decision cleared the way for Russian participation.
This makes no sense. I already made it official on here, they must've known that.


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funny :)
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LOL :)
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Not saying Biles is clean, because who the fuck knows, but she had a TUE for the ritalin, and there wasn't anything else in her WADA files.

Y'all grasping.


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Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:Not saying Biles is clean, because who the fuck knows, but she had a TUE for the ritalin, and there wasn't anything else in her WADA files.

Y'all grasping.
What matters, its that USA using WADA to get advantages for American sportsmen.
To cover using of dopings by American sportsmen, to eliminate concurents from competitions... etc.
Its looks like government program.

Nothing new of course, but still funny :)


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WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.

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Wild Bill wrote:
Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:Not saying Biles is clean, because who the fuck knows, but she had a TUE for the ritalin, and there wasn't anything else in her WADA files.

Y'all grasping.
What matters, its that USA using WADA to get advantages for American sportsmen.
To cover using of dopings by American sportsmen, to eliminate concurents from competitions... etc.
Its looks like government program.

Nothing new of course, but still funny :)
Your country is unusually infested with a cheating sport culture, Bill. Pretending everybody else is just as shitty may make you feel better, but it's not true.
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Bill, if you can show that American athletes were given TUEs out of proportion to the rest of the world, or that Russian athletes received proportionally fewer, and that the difference is significant, I'll change my mind. Until then, this is sour grapes.

It must suck to have your whole country get popped for doping.

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I'm with Bill on this one for two reasons. First of all, demanding that Russian athletes refrain from using performance enhancing drugs is culturally insensitive. Secondly, I am living proof of the astounding effects low-dose stimulants have on athletic performance.
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Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:It must suck to have your whole country get popped for doping.
Not at all, really. It s clear that that shit was faked up by USA
(wich own women team complete of steroid freaks)


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Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:Bill, if you can show that American athletes were given TUEs out of proportion to the rest of the world...
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1) Your table doesn't show how many TUEs American athletes were granted, just how many they asked for.
2) Your table doesn't show how many TUEs athletes from other parts of the world either asked for TUEs or got them. Unless the UFC is a new part of the world of which I'm not aware.

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Sport morality is a bit of a joke to me. First, the list of banned PEDs. Soon Vitamin C and Ibuprofen will be on the banned list. Sharapova was taking Mildronate, the stuff that is sold OTC in Russia - I suspect because it doesn't do anything, and athletes take it more out of superstition. There are scores of other useless and harmless substances that are on the banned list.

Then this talk about unfair advantage achieved with PEDs, which is strange in the least. There are twenty other ways to gain unfair advantage, mostly determined by the amount of money. If you have it - you can quit your day job, hire the best coach he's, do muscle biopsies and expensive tests to fine tune training and nutrition and afford best gear. You can also set up a lab to test for the detectable metabolites, to make sure you don't get caught.

But even all these feeble debates are irrelevant in the face of much bigger reality: rigging in sports is way more prevalent than we think, What's the big deal then if someone injects stuff if the opponent is going to sell the game/match to them?

Everybody tends to forget one thing: sports are a show business. Nothing more. If sport disappears tomorrow very little will change. Sports' contribution to the economy is more complex and less significant than thought; it rather contributes to the economy of the parties involved - federations, TV channels, athletes etc. Sure, sport creates jobs, but so does cannabis - without the drama.

I am fascinated by the identification of of how people identify with champions from their countries, even though there is very little in common between them. These guys are often not born in the country they represent, and their citizenship is arranged by various legal loopholes - marriage, for example. They often live and train in other countries as well. For example, lots of successful athletes move their residence to tax heavens for obvious purposes.

So the whole spiel with fair sports is a joke. Games should be watched like ballet shows, not wars between nations. If the dancer from your country got banned from dancing for a year because she ate the wrong food... you can see how ridiculous the drama is.
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Sports should encourage doping - fuck it, I want to see a 2-minute mile by someone on a cocktail of research chemicals, I want to see a 58-year old Randy Couture bulk to 265 and do spinning cartwheel kicks and shit.

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