Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:27 am

bennyonesix wrote:Jfc is there any part of the neoliberal system you don't fucking shill for?

Gays, trannys, minorities, elite higher ed.
You are hitting new levels of stupid. I didn't defend it. As in so many things, when a game is being played at a high level, the practical rules in play are not always apparent to people not playing at that level. Elite higher ed has a hierarchy that's very apparent to people in the know.
Do you think high finance has very good reasons for what they do and really contribute to our prosperity?
My friend actually does that and I think it's a bit of a waste of his talent. A lot of sharp people could be working on really important problems, but making $50m sounds like more fun and easy. However, as long as the buckets of ridiculous money are there, that will be a draw.

Circling back to why you're an idiot, you're bitching about high finance and your boy Trump just filled his senior administration with Goldman Sachs fuckpigs. Enjoy economic immobility, tax cuts en route to the rich.
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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by bennyonesix » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:11 am

Please enlighten us as to this system and what it selects for. And maybe give us a critique of our elite higher ed system and how its shortcomings trickle down as neg knock on effects for us reg folk who don't know about it first hand.

It is disgusting how Trump selected high finance. We will see. It does not bide well at all.

And here is a legit place to mention Hilary Clinton. It was one of two choices. Trump was clearly corrupt on a fraction of the scale of Hillary. Hillary exists to monetize US FP in the billiions of USD and as a vehicle for others to monetize US FP in the tens of millions of USD. How else do you explain this?

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Post by Turdacious » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:07 am


I'll bet she loves pizza too.
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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:55 am

bennyonesix wrote:Please enlighten us as to this system and what it selects for.
I found it pretty interesting, so even if you're trolling, sure. I knew about the B-school stuff below but not the others until recently.

The A-F model isn't good at comparing high-level students at the same school in different programs, or students in the same program from different schools. They have different pools of talent. Even if it did, an "A" rating is still putting a lot of people the exact same place. It isn't a 1-10,000 scale where every student in a class's program has an exact rank. To take Nafod's example, A-F doesn't rank Blue Angels, and is particularly bad for comparing Blue Angels to crop dusters.

Your Harvards and Stanfords have a ton of people who are A students. They didn't stop being A students just because they got there, but the talent pool increased. You end up with grade inflation. But recruiting for the postgraduate stuff is incredibly intense for top performers. The top people still get identified.

If you want to get into a top tier economics PhD program, A's at Harvard doesn't it by itself. Maybe you got an NSF fellowship or Rhodes scholarship, or ran a club. You worked with PhD's who remembered you. You took standardized tests. There are a dozen of these things that stand out strongly to the people looking for them.

For those econ or hard science people, some Nobel laureate ends up calling you and telling you to quit fucking around and tell MIT "no." They'll match the stipend with some rich dude's slush fund. And this isn't just happening at top 10 universities, the people elsewhere crushing the "non A-F" stuff are also getting those calls.

I had a family member go to a top 3 B-School, that doesn't permit grade inflation. They get around the potential downside by not releasing any transcripts until after recruitment season ends. Since the same companies recruit every year, when they see a promising candidate they talk to last year's hires and find out if the person is for real or not.

Outside of the top guys, the distinctions between those "with honors" and without is telling. People hiring those folks adjust for this easily.

tl/dr: Recruiting for top talent at high end law schools, PhD programs etc. is extremely competitive and goes way beyond GPA. There are a lot of things going on that the typical "Grade inflation at the Ivy League" article is ignoring or unaware of. GPA is crap for comparing students, because even the top 20% is pretty stratified.
And maybe give us a critique of our elite higher ed system and how its shortcomings trickle down as neg knock on effects for us reg folk who don't know about it first hand.
It's harder to get in to a top-5 school when Upper East Side assholes can put their kids in a grade school where 1/3 graduates end up at Harvard on merit, because they start playing the game when they're 3.
It is disgusting how Trump selected high finance. We will see. It does not bide well at all.
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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by bennyonesix » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:00 am

Not what I was asking. What does the process select for? And why? And how does that trickle down into society?

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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by Grandpa's Spells » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:54 am

bennyonesix wrote:Not what I was asking.
Oh.
What does the process select for?
It selects for academic achievement.
And why?
Because they're schools.
And how does that trickle down into society?
I'm not sure it does.
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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by TerryB » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:26 am

GS thinks he knows more than he does because he knows, or heard about, a few smart guys who far out-achieved him.

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Re: Monica Crowley - Plagiarizer

Post by bennyonesix » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:36 am

He's a smart one. But when you think about it, who else but a rain puddle deep goof would sell out for the neoliberal program?

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