End of road for foot wraps in Russian military

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End of road for foot wraps in Russian military

Post by JasonC » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:51 pm

In the original (and awesome) RKC book, Pavel mentioned these things.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcu ... raps-socks

They've seen service in the Seven Years war, the Napoleonic wars, the Crimean war and two world wars – in fact, in every war the Russian army has fought since the 17th century. But by the end of this year, they'll be history.

Portyanki, the squares of cloth (cotton for summer, flannel for winter) in which Russian soldiers have wrapped their feet since the days of Peter the Great, have lost their last and greatest battle – against socks.

When US troops met the Red Army at the river Elbe before the final push on Berlin in April 1945, American GIs were astonished to see their formidable Soviet counterparts wearing rags under their boots.

In fact, the cloths – common everywhere before the industrial revolution – were eminently practical: far cheaper to make than socks, quicker and easier to wash, dry and mend, and (providing they were properly bound) fit for purpose. They allowed Russia's hard-pressed factories not to be distracted by making socks, and soldiers in the field to improvise replacements if need be.

They did, though, need to be worn correctly. Oleg Dimitriev, a Russia Today journalist who spent two years – or, as he puts it, "695 days" – in portyanki on military service, writes that they could be torture until you got the technique right.

"The most crucial aspect is that one can only wear portyanki that are wrapped tightly," Dimitriev says. "If the soldier doesn't follow the procedure exactly, he could hurt his feet and get painful blisters."

You also had to be able to put your portyanki on fast: Red Army regulations stipulated soldiers had to be fully dressed within 45 seconds. The rags, which inevitably got pretty rancid, were changed weekly, at the same time as the soldier's shower, and then boiled at 100C.

Partially abandoned in military reforms of 2007, portyanki have now definitively reached the end of the road. Defence minister Sergei Shoigu has ordered that "by the end of 2013 … we need to finally, fully reject this concept in our armed forces".

Analysts suggest the move is not just about ridding a 21st-century army of footwear more suited to a medieval peasant, but that portyanki have come to symbolise other more significant, but equally outdated, practices favoured by the Russian army that the minister is determined to abolish.
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Re: End of road for foot wraps in Russian military

Post by Wild Bill » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:19 pm

Acording to news, during last 20 years each new military minister promised this :) but portyanky are stronger :)
maybe after moer 50-100 years...

japan flags used as portyanky
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Re: End of road for foot wraps in Russian military

Post by Wild Bill » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:33 pm

"Those soldiers who walk in the shoes "berts" and socks are compelled to wash and dry them in the evening. At the same time socks wear out quickly.
Of course, not all go in the "berts". Many still wear the canvas boots with socks and it's impossible, "- he said.
According to the Marine sergeant Denis Reshilov, "socks that were given to us, are of disgusting quality. Constantly had to ask parents to bring new ones. They are lives for a week maximum. "
According to the officer, the management of Logistics "seems to be able to persuade the minister did not rush to cancel the foot bindings and save them for several years. They say that the minister resigned. "

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Re: End of road for foot wraps in Russian military

Post by Bobby » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:49 am

So,are they still using foot wraps?
You`ll toughen up.Unless you have a serious medical condition commonly refered to as
"being a pussy".

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Post by Sangoma » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:59 am

I had to do military service for one month. Portyanki were on the long list of things I hated about the Army. I cheated and wore socks and got away with it, some of my friends got caught and sent to the kitchen to peel potatoes as the punishment.
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Post by Bud Charniga's grape ape » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:21 am

Did you have to do the Bear, or just straight PttP?

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Post by baffled » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:54 am

A month?
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Post by SubClaw » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:21 am

baffled wrote:A month?
It took them that long to find out Smet is a trans post-op. :finga:

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Post by Sangoma » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:46 am

In the USSR they had universal conscription at the age of 18. Unless you went to university, where they had military programs corresponding to the profession taught. In medical school we obviously had military medicine with the basic of basic army training, followed by the formal exam. Mathematicians would study artillery, mechanical engineers - tanks, electronic engineers - communications and so on. At the last summer we all had to go to the army camp to practice the invaluable military skills, starting with marching and dressing up for time, running after tanks, shooting AK-47s and getting acquainted with the Army life in general. I am not going to pass derogatory remarks about the Army in order not to upset the serving members. Let's just say that Army life is not my calling.

One long fucking month it was. Mind you, I managed to get reprimanded for foul language while being there, and there barely passed the fucking exam at the third attempt.
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