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Re: For all ketlebellers.

Post by Dunn » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:26 am

Wild Bill wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:Did someone ordered Gregor's book?
Noone?
I did. I'm waiting for it to get here. I will post a review once I read it.

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Re: For all ketlebellers.

Post by Wild Bill » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:50 am

i reading it right now.
so far it is the best book on GS i ever read :)

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Post by Tom » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:25 pm

Wild Bill wrote:i reading it right now.
so far it is the best book on GS i ever read :)
I looks like Vasilev has a book out now too.
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Post by Wild Bill » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:12 pm

Tom wrote:I looks like Vasilev has a book out now too.
i heard his book about 40 pages #-o

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Post by Holland Oates » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:02 pm

Not I. I didn't even get Denis's.
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Re: For all ketlebellers.

Post by Dunn » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:13 pm

Wild Bill wrote:
Tom wrote:I looks like Vasilev has a book out now too.
i heard his book about 40 pages #-o
I still want a copy. Just gotta wait for funds.

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Post by TomFurman » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:21 pm

So, any early reviews of Denis' and Gregor's books?
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Post by TomFurman » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:39 pm

Mickey O'neil wrote:I have 16's, 20's, 24's, and 32's. I'll give it a go. I'm a failure anyway.
Wild Bill wrote:But on tje other hand...
You'll just fail some workouts. Thats all. Nothing serious :)

So after second thought, you may try it with 20s, but prepare to not dissapoint to much, if you fail some workouts.
Mickey, You are Paul White's nightmare. He checks under his bed every night to make sure you are not going to scare him.
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Post by Dunn » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:09 pm

TomFurman wrote:
Mickey O'neil wrote:I have 16's, 20's, 24's, and 32's. I'll give it a go. I'm a failure anyway.
Wild Bill wrote:But on tje other hand...
You'll just fail some workouts. Thats all. Nothing serious :)

So after second thought, you may try it with 20s, but prepare to not dissapoint to much, if you fail some workouts.
Mickey, You are Paul White's nightmare. He checks under his bed every night to make sure you are not going to scare him.
That's because Mick can actually fit under there...

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Post by Wild Bill » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:31 pm

TomFurman wrote:So, any early reviews of Denis' and Gregor's books?
About Gregor's book.
have not enough language to write a review, but it is really must have book for every kettlebeller!

1. Ready plans. With three weights.
2. Understandble explaining about planning.
3. First time ever i met a plan for snatch.
4. Some new ideas i never heard before. For example there are minimal tempos for each exersize, with wich they are still cyclic sport. If you work slower, it is not cyclic sport.

thats enough, i still reading. Not ended yet.

Most of the books just show technique, an couple of pages about planning, wich i never could use for myself :)))
With Gregor's book you may start training immediately and do your personal records :)
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Post by davidc » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:16 am

Where can you order Gregor and Denis' books?
Also, does anybody know what Paul White's training template is? I see the videos he posts on FB but don't really know what his system is. Thanks

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Post by Dunn » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:47 am

davidc wrote:Where can you order Gregor and Denis' books?
Also, does anybody know what Paul White's training template is? I see the videos he posts on FB but don't really know what his system is. Thanks
Hit them up via PM and they will hook you up.

As for Paul, I honestly think he does his own programming with some helpful hints from others. Best bet is to just ask. He's fairly open to questions.

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Post by davidc » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:39 pm

Dunn wrote:
davidc wrote:Where can you order Gregor and Denis' books?
Also, does anybody know what Paul White's training template is? I see the videos he posts on FB but don't really know what his system is. Thanks
Hit them up via PM and they will hook you up.

As for Paul, I honestly think he does his own programming with some helpful hints from others. Best bet is to just ask. He's fairly open to questions.
Thanks, Dunn

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Post by lcvl » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:41 pm

Keep in mind that Denis book is just programming. His and Rachinsky's charts.
Gregor's book definitely offers a broader vision. Many interesting ideas. I find the organization of the material a bit chaotic and inconsistent though. Maybe it's just me.

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Post by Wild Bill » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:33 am

lcvl wrote:I find the organization of the material a bit chaotic and inconsistent though. Maybe it's just me.
True. Now, after i've read littlee more, i agree with this.

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Post by Dunn » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:03 am

I will try and post a comprehensive review of Gregors book once it gets here.

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Post by Herv100 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:03 pm

I remember how jealous FRKCTL was of Gregor
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Post by TomFurman » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:47 am

Dunn wrote:I will try and post a comprehensive review of Gregors book once it gets here.
I look forward to it.

I'd be interested in Merkulin writing something. He's been competing 22+ years, injury free,.. is the most medaled GS athlete. Mixed traditional barbell lifts, etc. John Wild Buckley said Sergei's grip is like a vise and he's not a big man.

Just interesting his take on recovery, stretching, GPP. Not that it's that much different.
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Post by lcvl » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:58 am

TomFurman wrote:
Dunn wrote:I will try and post a comprehensive review of Gregors book once it gets here.
I look forward to it.

I'd be interested in Merkulin writing something. He's been competing 22+ years, injury free,.. is the most medaled GS athlete. Mixed traditional barbell lifts, etc. John Wild Buckley said Sergei's grip is like a vise and he's not a big man.

Just interesting his take on recovery, stretching, GPP. Not that it's that much different.
I'm pretty sure he has no "secrets". Just thousands of hours on the basic lifts, 4,5 (maybe 10) assistance drills with giryas, plus squats and deads with a barbell. The training protocols are not a mistery any longer either. Make sure you total between 9 and 15 mins under the bells (total volume depending on your level), using as much variety in set duration/pace as possible (alternating between short, medium and long sets, slow, medium and fast RPMs, as much as possible).

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Post by Beer Jew » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:16 am

lcvl wrote:
TomFurman wrote:
Dunn wrote:I will try and post a comprehensive review of Gregors book once it gets here.
I look forward to it.

I'd be interested in Merkulin writing something. He's been competing 22+ years, injury free,.. is the most medaled GS athlete. Mixed traditional barbell lifts, etc. John Wild Buckley said Sergei's grip is like a vise and he's not a big man.

Just interesting his take on recovery, stretching, GPP. Not that it's that much different.
I'm pretty sure he has no "secrets". Just thousands of hours on the basic lifts.
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Post by Sangoma » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:56 am

Thousand of hours of basic lifts is the secret of many champions, and it is completely wrong for the average lifters. Just like bodybuilding routines of Jay Cutler and Ronny Coleman are wrong for amateur gym goers.

Rudnev talked about the methodology of training a lot. He teaches it at his seminars. I once helped him translate part of it, and the subject is way more complex than "pick more for more reps". Most gifted lifters have no clue how to train average people. I wish Rudnev wrote a book. Years ago I helped him and Khasin translate the manual for coaches' seminar. With minimal editing it would become the bible of gs overnight.
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Post by Beer Jew » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:41 pm

Sangoma wrote:Thousand of hours of basic lifts is the secret of many champions, and it is completely wrong for the average lifters.
Lol wut?

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Post by Dunn » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:12 pm

Beer Jew wrote:
Sangoma wrote:Thousand of hours of basic lifts is the secret of many champions, and it is completely wrong for the average lifters.
Lol wut?

Yeah. I actually think the opposite. Moderate time and weight, consistently over time is what most folks need.

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Post by SubClaw » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:57 pm

Dunn wrote:
Beer Jew wrote:
Sangoma wrote:Thousand of hours of basic lifts is the secret of many champions, and it is completely wrong for the average lifters.
Lol wut?

Yeah. I actually think the opposite. Moderate time and weight, consistently over time is what most folks need.
I agree. Even the worst structured routine will work (I didn't say optimally) if done consistently over and over.

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Post by lcvl » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:13 pm

Sangoma wrote:Thousand of hours of basic lifts is the secret of many champions, and it is completely wrong for the average lifters. Just like bodybuilding routines of Jay Cutler and Ronny Coleman are wrong for amateur gym goers.
Nobody said that what works for an elite athlete can work the same way for the average lifter.

"Make sure you total between 9 and 15 mins under the bells >>>>(total volume depending on your level)<<<<"

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