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Post by newguy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:50 am

Hello people,

My current thing is kettlebells and has been for awhile.

For the fun of it today, I decided to warm up with my Indian clubs and clubbells. I've got a pair of three pounders and a pair of fifteen pounders. I had time so I did a two song thing - two songs with a pair of threes. Then I moved to two songs with the fifteens. The pair of fifteens was lame. Kind of too heavy for having one in each hand so I switched to a using one fifteen. It was a lot of fun.

That got me thinking that having something heavier might be nice.

Looked around and checked out Onnit.

An Onnit 20lb mace is 75. A 25lb mace is is 95. (Both plus shipping. I didn't feel like creating an account so who knows how much that madness is)

A 25lb club is 67 plus shipping.

To throw a wrinkly in this is a 20lb sledgehammer on amazon for 55....that is including shipping!

Any thoughts on this? I would just be using it for fun. Warming up, playing around, etc. No real plan, just variation.

Is a mace much different than a club? Is there enough of a weight difference between 20 and 25 to be worth the cost? At the same, is the difference between my 15lb club and a 20lb anything worth the cost?

Any thoughts appreciated.

For reference I routinely use the 32kg KB for swings, get ups, and one arm long cycle. For me that is heavy, but manageable.

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Post by Holland Oates » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:09 am

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I made mine out of an old 1' diameter barbell. Cut the threads off one end and trimmed the other end down to hold 3 plates and two of the screw on collars.
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Post by Holland Oates » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:13 am

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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:10 am

It's really irritating how easily these trinkets found a place in my warm up. There's definitely something super duper intuitive about using clubbells and or a mace to open up the shoulder. when i first started posting a log here, my shoulder was super Fuct and one of the Pixies Milfs suggested I use a clubbell for the tendinitis and mobility issues. It damn near fixed me in about 4 weeks.
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Post by newguy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:23 am

That stronger grip thing is like 190. What do you load your bar up to? I have a standard bar but no real tools for cutting it down and might rather just pay for something, but will play around this weekend.
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Post by newguy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:27 am

Blaidd Drwg wrote:It's really irritating how easily these trinkets found a place in my warm up. There's definitely something super duper intuitive about using clubbells and or a mace to open up the shoulder. when i first started posting a log here, my shoulder was super Fuct and one of the Pixies Milfs suggested I use a clubbell for the tendinitis and mobility issues. It damn near fixed me in about 4 weeks.
Part of this warm up idea was two-fold - my shoulder and elbow have been bothering me since I tweaked them in an impromptu wrestling session. A simple 15 minutes completely loosened my shoulder and my elbow felt a lot better as well.

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Post by Bobby » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:10 am

I should use clubs and the mace more.Nice for mobility,grip and some exercises really tax triceps and shoulder endurance.
You`ll toughen up.Unless you have a serious medical condition commonly refered to as
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Post by Holland Oates » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:41 am

newguy wrote:That stronger grip thing is like 190. What do you load your bar up to? I have a standard bar but no real tools for cutting it down and might rather just pay for something, but will play around this weekend.
Holland Oates wrote:Here's a store bought version
I'll have to look. I think it's 15 pounds. I used a hacksaw to cut my bar down.
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Post by Croatoa » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:54 pm

I have a pair of 5's I use for warm up and some light cardio. 5 minutes of double swipes really taxes the grip and gets the heart going.

I also scored an old rmax 25 lb club from a guy who went crazy and bought a whole set of them back in the day. I used it for a while and did an old program that Doug Szolek originally came up with for the 45 lb. club.
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Post by TerryB » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:38 am

Blaidd Drwg wrote:It's really irritating how easily these trinkets found a place in my warm up. There's definitely something super duper intuitive about using clubbells and or a mace to open up the shoulder. when i first started posting a log here, my shoulder was super Fuct and one of the Pixies Milfs suggested I use a clubbell for the tendinitis and mobility issues. It damn near fixed me in about 4 weeks.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:41 am

TerryB wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:It's really irritating how easily these trinkets found a place in my warm up. There's definitely something super duper intuitive about using clubbells and or a mace to open up the shoulder. when i first started posting a log here, my shoulder was super Fuct and one of the Pixies Milfs suggested I use a clubbell for the tendinitis and mobility issues. It damn near fixed me in about 4 weeks.
Better than halos with a kb?
Yes. Much in my case.

I've dones halos with a plate and KB's of many sizes. My ghetto club bell works better.

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Post by TerryB » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:22 pm

would a heavy cast iron skillet work?
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Post by Thud » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:52 pm

TerryB wrote:would a heavy cast iron skillet work?
Absolutely. A few swings with it and your rolling pin to your boyfriend's head is exactly what you need.
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Post by johno » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:48 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:My ghetto club bell...

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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:44 pm

home depot. somewhere around 13 dollars i think.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:
TerryB wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:It's really irritating how easily these trinkets found a place in my warm up. There's definitely something super duper intuitive about using clubbells and or a mace to open up the shoulder. when i first started posting a log here, my shoulder was super Fuct and one of the Pixies Milfs suggested I use a clubbell for the tendinitis and mobility issues. It damn near fixed me in about 4 weeks.
Better than halos with a kb?
Yes. Much in my case.

I've dones halos with a plate and KB's of many sizes. My ghetto club bell works better.

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Ditto. I just bought a longer pipe to convert it to a mace.
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Post by TerryB » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:45 am

If you guys are going to train like housewives, you might as well use a skillet

no shame in it
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:52 am

TerryB wrote:If you guys are going to train like housewives, you might as well use a skillet

no shame in it

Where's your training log faggot?
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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:14 am

So far..the clubs are useful to warm the shoulders up. The mace swings haven't done a lot, but are decent for a warm up. I am looking for flex gains, and not seeing them with the mace work

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Post by newguy » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:07 am

I've been looking back into this club stuff. My last experience with this was Sonnon's material, and back then finding anything of use on the web was a chore.

I was surprised at how much you can find now. I was also surprised at how different the traditional Indian and Persian stuff is from what Sonnon did.

In the stuff I watched I never saw a swing, a swipe, or a mill. Just those weird twisting things where the club starts and ends on the shoulder.

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Post by TerryB » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:40 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
TerryB wrote:If you guys are going to train like housewives, you might as well use a skillet

no shame in it

Where's your training log faggot?
In the basement next to my weights. My skillets are nicely arranged on a hanging rack in my kitchen.
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Post by newguy » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:41 am

I have a fairly large cast iron skillet I cook with. Since my few days of using the clubbells, I find it is much easier to lift.

I have not found the reverse to be true. Lifting the skillet does not seem to improve anything else.

YMMV

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Post by newguy » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:41 am

After a week of sitting on this, I decided to order a 25lb club and a 20lb mace, both from Onnit.

Not sure if the mace is going to be too heavy or not, but I'll figure it out.

Enjoying the mix of KBs and club work. Elbow and shoulders are feeling great and the two play nicely together.

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Post by Bobby » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:51 am

newguy wrote:I have a fairly large cast iron skillet I cook with. Since my few days of using the clubbells, I find it is much easier to lift.

I have not found the reverse to be true. Lifting the skillet does not seem to improve anything else.

YMMV
Depends,did you do your skillet training hardstyle?
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Post by newguy » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:46 am

Bobby wrote:
newguy wrote:I have a fairly large cast iron skillet I cook with. Since my few days of using the clubbells, I find it is much easier to lift.

I have not found the reverse to be true. Lifting the skillet does not seem to improve anything else.

YMMV
Depends,did you do your skillet training hardstyle?
Lots of low rep sets with maximum tension.

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