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Post by DARTH » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:40 am

Next 2 months myself and a client are gong to mess a round a bit with some alternatives to the gym and some things that we have found or think might, be a good option for our bodies and needs.

He's 49, a Ju Jutsu black belt, boxer, not a sit around guy but he's got some chronic issues and what not.

I am 43, got some tendon shit in my left arm, my old hernia area still bothers me from time to time or after hard exertions, ect.

We are going to listen to our bodies, check our egos but also work around issues to keep training and to do it outside of a commercial gym environment with simple things.

We our going to let our over all fitness be the result of our martial arts training. dedicated PT sessions and take in account of exertions of certain activities like walks, chores and banging the old lady for 2 hours like you were a younger man.

( Sunday)Workout 1 Strength & conditioning. Kettlebell centric full body workout with some Yoga.

2 days.

30-60 minutes of Yoga in this time
30 -150 minutes moderate-high intensity martial arts training in this time. ( besides also teaching)
whatever chores and things come my way.

( Weds) Workout 2 Strength & Conditioning. Yoga, KB work, jumping, shadowboxing and ukmei on trampoline for 45-75 minutes.


3 days.

30-60 minutes of Yoga
30- 120 minutes of walking
45 - 160 minutes of moderate to high intensity martial arts training in solo/partner session in with in class and teaching.


(Sunday)Workout 3 STRENGTH & Conditioning. Jeep Mule. Pushin jeep on the back spare like Conan, Pushing with back to back spare of the jeep like weak teenagers have to. Hooking up some straps and pulling it like a mule and then pulling it walking backwards.

and so on.

Cleaning up my eating is another issue.




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Post by SubClaw » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:27 am

Seems like a sensible, almost Maxwell-esque approach. Can you descend into detail about the specifics of the program?

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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:59 pm

Don't forget oil pulling and ball sack gung fu

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Post by DARTH » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:07 pm

SubClaw wrote:Seems like a sensible, almost Maxwell-esque approach. Can you descend into detail about the specifics of the program?

I have general ideas and some templates but there is a lot of experimentation and play at this point.

My training log will show a pattern and then I’ll tweak from there.

I like the Jeep pulling because it's moving something heavy but we're not playing games with numbers other than general distance and what we get out of it. I don't have a hex bar or a squat rack at my house and I pretty much don't want them either, nor right now do I want the loading on the spine. Also don't have a bench. This is my replacement for deads, squats and benches with a fuck ton of anaerobic smack. I also have some issue that compromise my left arm on pulling movements, so I want to be sparing and have alternatives should my arm become more of an issue, it's also seems easier on my hernia area. I have no issue's there today after we moved the jeep around this late morning. I feel a lot like I did after heavy KB/Bar bell workouts, but in the right places. With some mods, jeep mule is a winner.

The trampoline allows me to put a little extra strength stability work and balance work in my yoga and martial arts and also allows me to get a leg, core and cardio workout that is easy on the joints.

No, I am not going into Pual Check land thinking lifting on balls and bouncing shit equates to big iron, but I also like doing basic KB work on it as well. I get a lot of work on the smaller muclses and shit in the lower legs, ankles and feel.

KBs because I like KBs, I know KBs quite well, it gives me a great gauge on how it's all coming together and I intend on taken on new KB-PT clients/students.

The spacing between dedicated S&C workouts is as it is to allow recovery and to also allow for martial arts, chores and whatnot.

I could go on but let's just call this a GPP experiment for someone who wants to cut down on overuse injuries and get back in better than average shape overall so I can keep going on with what I like to do and live. I also have some other ideas should this prove workable. Gimmicks that are workable can catch on.




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Post by SubClaw » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:39 am

DARTH wrote:
SubClaw wrote:Seems like a sensible, almost Maxwell-esque approach. Can you descend into detail about the specifics of the program?

I have general ideas and some templates but there is a lot of experimentation and play at this point.

My training log will show a pattern and then I’ll tweak from there.

I like the Jeep pulling because it's moving something heavy but we're not playing games with numbers other than general distance and what we get out of it. I don't have a hex bar or a squat rack at my house and I pretty much don't want them either, nor right now do I want the loading on the spine. Also don't have a bench. This is my replacement for deads, squats and benches with a fuck ton of anaerobic smack. I also have some issue that compromise my left arm on pulling movements, so I want to be sparing and have alternatives should my arm become more of an issue, it's also seems easier on my hernia area. I have no issue's there today after we moved the jeep around this late morning. I feel a lot like I did after heavy KB/Bar bell workouts, but in the right places. With some mods, jeep mule is a winner.

The trampoline allows me to put a little extra strength stability work and balance work in my yoga and martial arts and also allows me to get a leg, core and cardio workout that is easy on the joints.

No, I am not going into Pual Check land thinking lifting on balls and bouncing shit equates to big iron, but I also like doing basic KB work on it as well. I get a lot of work on the smaller muclses and shit in the lower legs, ankles and feel.

KBs because I like KBs, I know KBs quite well, it gives me a great gauge on how it's all coming together and I intend on taken on new KB-PT clients/students.

The spacing between dedicated S&C workouts is as it is to allow recovery and to also allow for martial arts, chores and whatnot.

I could go on but let's just call this a GPP experiment for someone who wants to cut down on overuse injuries and get back in better than average shape overall so I can keep going on with what I like to do and live. I also have some other ideas should this prove workable. Gimmicks that are workable can catch on.
Thanks!

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Post by Beer Jew » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:25 am

So you and your "buddy" are going to be doing yoga, long walks, and some grappling together.

Did he answer an ad?

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Post by Bobby » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:44 pm

Beer Jew wrote:So you and your "buddy" are going to be doing yoga, long walks, and some grappling together.

Did he answer an ad?

Well BJ,not everyone wants to be a fat 3 lift specialist.See what good that will do you when the hajjis come looking for you.
You`ll toughen up.Unless you have a serious medical condition commonly refered to as
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Post by DARTH » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:47 pm

Beer Jew wrote:So you and your "buddy" are going to be doing yoga, long walks, and some grappling together.

Did he answer an ad?

Wanna go camping?




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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:02 pm

I don't know about the kung fu shit, you've got that locked down. ..I like Yoga though.

For the hernia recovery, squatting was the bomb for me.

Tools to consider.

Sandbag, carries and presses and squats and loads

KB, swings and one arm anything can fit into any program.

The pushes are great, jeep's a little heavy but if you can't make a ghetto prowler or sled it'll do well enoguh.
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Post by DARTH » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:15 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:I don't know about the kung fu shit, you've got that locked down. ..I like Yoga though.

For the hernia recovery, squatting was the bomb for me.

Tools to consider.

Sandbag, carries and presses and squats and loads

KB, swings and one arm anything can fit into any program.

The pushes are great, jeep's a little heavy but if you can't make a ghetto prowler or sled it'll do well enoguh.

Squatting is something I need to do more starting this but at the moment I have a burning sensation below the kneecap, like the feeling of a new, healing roadrash scab, when I move about a 3rd of the time, so for a little bit, like 2-4 weeks, squatting with weight is out but I will work around. I have not thought about it helping this hernia residuals but I can see it being better on it then most versions of heavy deadlifts by a landslide for that area. Thanks for the comment, I'll keep it more to the front of mind here as it serves my purpose and you've been through it.

The sandbags I should do, since it's al about outside and alternative training but the KBs can handle all that for now. That would be fun in the summer when I won't give a shit if the bag leaks sand and I'll just hose off in the yard after. So I can be pretty cheap on making the bags. Plastic filled with sand into a duffel, ducktaped and stuffed in a sack and tied off


I thought about sleds and I can see that coming in. the Jeep just jumped at me one day when I was training my buddy. I;ve pushed cars in the past here and there. We've already done KB and trampoline stuff and he was game. Besides getting a harness we will play this with a mind of adapting to the tool at hand and being safe and smart. Just make do with the jeep for now as it's also a stand in for dead, barbell squats and benches in his and my routines for now. I thought about also rigging my recently acquired Subaru for this though.




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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:26 pm

You need box squats...knees and belly respond well. That said..you're in a barbell sparse environment and good to preserve your knees...so maybe down the road.

One awesomely fun, grip/strempf/work capacity workout is IGO/UGO with a sandbag....similar to ladders or whatever, just back and forth with your buddy cleaning and shouldering the bag. I like doing stones over bar that way as well....It's a sneaky workout and you feel great after.

One thing I like on the sandbag is using pea gravel, cleaner, doesn' leak as bad, when the bag finally goes to hell, it's easy clean up even indoors.
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Post by DARTH » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:36 pm

Thanks, BD.




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Post by climber511 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:08 pm

Do the trampoline barefoot and stay up on your toes weighting in and outside edges - does good things for the muscles in your feet. Again on the tramp - for balance stand on one foot and use the other to point at 1-2-3-4 o'clock etc. Trampoline (I just have a mini tramp) can do some interesting stuff.

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Post by DARTH » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:32 pm

climber511 wrote:Do the trampoline barefoot and stay up on your toes weighting in and outside edges - does good things for the muscles in your feet. Again on the tramp - for balance stand on one foot and use the other to point at 1-2-3-4 o'clock etc. Trampoline (I just have a mini tramp) can do some interesting stuff.

Oh yeah, I never wear shoes or allow them on our tramp. Yes, you do feel it in the feet and ankles and I do something like you describe, but with kick chambers from my younger days in Korean footfighting.




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Post by johno » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:24 pm

I'm not as experienced in MA as either you or your client, but I'd sub in slow-moderate JJ rolling for some of the yoga. IMO, same results with more fun & aliveness and more carryover to your Art.
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Post by Blaidd Drwg » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:34 pm

johno wrote:I'm not as experienced in MA as either you or your client, but I'd sub in slow-moderate JJ rolling for some of the yoga. IMO, same results with more fun & aliveness and more carryover to your Art.

Really? I love the idea of doing in one step what you might have done in two or three...but you know I know less than nothing about ZHooZheeTsooo..So how does this work if the goal of this session is flexibility bloodflow? just rolling atr 20% throttle, series of subs and defenses etc?
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:
johno wrote:I'm not as experienced in MA as either you or your client, but I'd sub in slow-moderate JJ rolling for some of the yoga. IMO, same results with more fun & aliveness and more carryover to your Art.
...how does this work if the goal of this session is flexibility bloodflow? just rolling atr 20% throttle, series of subs and defenses etc?
Exactly. I'd say 20-50% for a yoga-like benefit. Many options*:

1 - Standup grappling/wrestling - could drill X technique repetitively or just do unbalancing spar. No takedowns. Great for total body & balance. No matter what cardio you're already doing, this will get you puffing.

2 - Roll from knees. (The Shame). The advantage is that you can complete the "takedown" without your partner hitting the mat hard.

3 - Roll from predetermined positions. Ex. - If I want to improve my Bottom Side Control, I'll start the spar from there. And maybe just go until I escape/reverse or my partner advances his position.

4 - Drills with lots of repeats and varying (low-moderate) resistance. More boring, but advances mastery.

5 - I have a grappling dummy in my basement that I am finally using. It helps me work out the fundamentals of certain moves and gets my blood pumping. But not nearly the fun/aliveness of any partner roll. This might be analogous to a freestyle yoga.

6 - Flow roll. Just roll & see what develops. Get to a certain position and stop, rewind. Figure out how you got there, and the pros & cons. Talk to partner, see what he/she thinks. Then repeat that series or reboot & flow to a more beautiful solution.


*all based on the assumption that you & your partner refrain from the 90-100% ARRGH. A good key to that is to agree to tap regularly & whenever a submission is near-sunk.
(My personal ego-weakness is that I can roll nice & relaxed, but over-throttle when my partner gets a submission. That's how I often jack my neck.)
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Post by Shafpocalypse Now » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:55 pm

sounds like high school wrestling practice

except take downs were live, and like 40% of the live wrestling

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Post by DARTH » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:17 pm

While you can get a lot of that when you roll, randori and just train, I tend to need to address certain areas and issues directly. Those things are one of the reasons you see the resistance sessions are spread out more than on, off, on, off.




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Post by johno » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:52 pm

DARTH wrote:...need to address certain areas and issues directly.
I can't argue with that. I was envisioning a generic yoga program, and thought you could productively sub in light rolling on some days.
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