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The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:47 pm
by Bram
I've been reading this for over a month and I'm still only half-way through a book of only 260 pages.
EDIT: Finally finished it, terrific book.
Josh is the kid from "Searching for Bobby Fischer", a chess genius and 8-time national champion who has gone on to become a Tai Chi Push-Hands World Champion and now a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu training under Marcelo Garcia.
His insights into the learning process, at least for myself, are great. I have pages and pages of notes, that I see parallels in my various pursuits (I'm a hyper-competitive video game player, surfer and Jiu-Jitsu student). Due to his book I've also started playing chess and really enjoying it -- I hated it as a kid, but I'm enjoying trying to make sense of the game.
I don't know if someone who isn't competitive would derive much from this book, but I'm very thankful it was written -- a guide to the mindset and attitude necessary to win and improve.
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:09 am
by Grandpa's Spells
Have you read Mastery and how does it compare?
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:38 am
by Chessman
I liked it too but mainly because he went so in depth about his push hands tourneys. I felt he had some good insights otherwise, but the books later emphasis on push hands will probably not be appreciated by everyone.
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:33 am
by vern
He never made Grandmaster. I guess they over-hyped him.
I enjoyed his dad's book and the movie though.
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:28 pm
by Bram
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Have you read Mastery and how does it compare?
I haven't. Haven't ready any other chess books either.
Would you recommend it?
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:31 pm
by Bram
vern wrote:He never made Grandmaster. I guess they over-hyped him.
I enjoyed his dad's book and the movie though.
I was wondering if he ever achieved Grandmaster status.
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:52 am
by vern
Bram wrote:vern wrote:He never made Grandmaster. I guess they over-hyped him.
I enjoyed his dad's book and the movie though.
I was wondering if he ever achieved Grandmaster status.
He got close, International Master IIRC. (Victor Korchnoi once said that no sane person could ever become a Grandmaster.)
You can check out some of Josh's best games here...
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=17030
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:59 am
by Chessman
That's okay. I saw a magazine refer to him as a grandmaster in taichi the other day.
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Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:46 pm
by Bram
Best book ever?
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:51 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Bram wrote:Grandpa's Spells wrote:Have you read Mastery and how does it compare?
I haven't. Haven't ready any other chess books either.
Would you recommend it?
Very much so. I suspect the author is less of a virtuoso than the book suggests (not a lot of guys take up an MA late in life and get really good), but he taught for a long time and his insights into the learning process are legit.
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:18 pm
by Bram
I think I'll pick up his book then. I read Yasser Seirawan's "Play Winning Chess" and liked it:
But haven't read any other chess books yet.
Re: The Art of Learning by Josh Waitzkin
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:55 pm
by vern
Since his recent death Bobby's book is available now for the first time in years. (In algebraic notation too.)
I also really enjoyed Tal's book.
White King and Red Queen is a really interesting book about chess and the Cold War. (You don't even have to know how to play chess to enjoy it.) I thought it was just going to be about the Fischer/Spassky match, but it covers a whole bunch of history that I had never even heard of. Highly recommended.
