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Nice Guys Finish Last

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:04 pm
by Turdacious
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/ebooks/free_ebook.html

Leo Durocher's autobiography. Some good bits worth reading-- and free.
I COME TO KILL YOU
My baseball career spanned almost five decades—from 1925 to 1973, count them—and in all that time I never had a boss call me upstairs so that he could congratulate me for losing like a gentleman. “How you play the game” is for college boys. When you’re playing for money, winning is the only thing that matters. Show me a good loser in professional sports, and I’ll show you an idiot. Show me a sportsman, and I’ll show you a player I’m looking to trade to Oakland so that he can discuss his salary with that other great sportsman, Charley Finley.

I believe in rules. (Sure I do. If there weren’t any rules, how could you break them?) I also believe I have a right to test the rules by seeing how far they can be bent. If a man is sliding into second base and the ball goes into center field, what’s the matter with falling on him accidentally so that he can’t get up and go to third? If you get away with it, fine. If you don’t, what have you lost? I don’t call that cheating; I call that heads-up baseball. Win any way you can as long as you can get away with it.

Re: Nice Guys Finish Last

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:26 pm
by Abandoned by Wolves
The Unflushable DEATHTURD wrote:http://www.press.uchicago.edu/ebooks/free_ebook.html

Leo Durocher's autobiography. Some good bits worth reading-- and free.
I COME TO KILL YOU
My baseball career spanned almost five decades—from 1925 to 1973, count them—and in all that time I never had a boss call me upstairs so that he could congratulate me for losing like a gentleman. “How you play the game” is for college boys. When you’re playing for money, winning is the only thing that matters. Show me a good loser in professional sports, and I’ll show you an idiot. Show me a sportsman, and I’ll show you a player I’m looking to trade to Oakland so that he can discuss his salary with that other great sportsman, Charley Finley.

I believe in rules. (Sure I do. If there weren’t any rules, how could you break them?) I also believe I have a right to test the rules by seeing how far they can be bent. If a man is sliding into second base and the ball goes into center field, what’s the matter with falling on him accidentally so that he can’t get up and go to third? If you get away with it, fine. If you don’t, what have you lost? I don’t call that cheating; I call that heads-up baseball. Win any way you can as long as you can get away with it.
Heh. I once worked with a guy who spent his afternoons and evenings as a referee at high school football and basketball games. I still remember his philosophy regarding the players he was monitoring, something to the effect of "If you aren't bending the rules as far as you can without getting caught, you don't really want to win."

Re: Nice Guys Finish Last

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:30 pm
by nafod
Naval Aviation rule of thumb

1. Don't break the rules
2. If you break them, don't #$% it up
3. If you #$% it up, don't get caught
4. If you get caught, don't whine

Re: Nice Guys Finish Last

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:15 pm
by T200
3.5. If you get caught deny it until the evidence is overwhelming. Then deny it a little more just to make sure.

Re: Nice Guys Finish Last

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:01 pm
by dingleberry
nafod wrote:Naval Aviation rule of thumb

1. Don't break the rules
2. If you break them, don't #$% it up
3. If you #$% it up, don't get caught
4. If you get caught, don't whine

I explain #4 to my sons almost daily.