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Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:32 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
It's amazing how little air time is wasted, especially compared to other "good" shows. This shit is awesome.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:43 pm
by Cayenne
The first television broadcast I can remember was JFK's funeral.

I was three and a half years old and I remember my Mom and older sister being very emotional as they watched.

I've watched, like many (most?) here,a lot (!) of TV in the almost 50 years since.

For my tastes, BB is the best show I've ever seen.

Most shows, even the "good" ones, are more or less predictable. Even so, it "entertains" (or, I should say, passes the time,) to watch them.

BB, by comparison, blows me away with stuff I did not see coming.

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The episode, ("One Minute" I think is the title,) where the twins shoot Hank, well, that final scene was the most gripping "action" sequence I've ever seen on TV.

No doubt what I'll be doing the next 7 Sunday nights @ 9 pm. EST.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:47 pm
by Cayenne
BTW, the "little air time is wasted," observation, if that is a reference to the fact that ***SPOILER***


















The conflict between Hank and Walt came right out, rather than "cat and moused" for a few weeks, I totally agree. I think creator commented, (I paraphrase,) "We've only got 7 hours left and a whole lot of story telling left to do."

The episode intro with the shocked neighbor, the gutted house, the scrawled "H E I S E N B E R G", really sets up the suspense amazingly.

It's like the end of great novel.

Enjoy.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:09 pm
by DikTracy6000
Pretty much agree with everything said. The scenes with Hank and Walt have been great. I love how the show's creator has transformed Walt into the monster. I keep the captions option on in our bedroom set, so I can read the subtle mutterances that I miss during the normal course of this show. Jonathan Bank's Mike was also a favorite character in the whole series. This guy has been a bad guy throughout his life, great way to wind up a long career.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:23 am
by Bram
I've been loving this show, hope the M60 plays a good role in the finale.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:43 am
by Bram
Anybody watch last night's episode?

Lotta stuff went down, with a good cliffhanger ending.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:54 pm
by Cayenne
I noticed that I could literally feel my heart pounding from the suspense during the last several minutes -Just before "the cavalry" arrived - "realizing" that this simply could not be how it was going to end. A) Because we've seen "flash forward" showing Walt later in time and B) Because there was time left on the clock for that episode.

Personally, drama that can evoke that kind of physiological response, (i.e., elevated pulse, unconsciously holding breath,) is powerful !

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:22 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Cayenne wrote:I noticed that I could literally feel my heart pounding from the suspense during the last several minutes -Just before "the cavalry" arrived - "realizing" that this simply could not be how it was going to end. A) Because we've seen "flash forward" showing Walt later in time and B) Because there was time left on the clock for that episode.

Personally, drama that can evoke that kind of physiological response, (i.e., elevated pulse, unconsciously holding breath,) is powerful !
There's a really funny Reddit thread complaining about how badly the final season of Dexter sucks, and how painful it is to watch it while Breaking Bad (with another secret identity criminal in its final episodes) is crushing the shit out of it.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:32 pm
by DARTH
The only problem with that scene is that you had about 5-6 guys with auto shotguns and handguns about 40 feet from 2 guys with shit cover, half the time standing up and neither one of those feds have been tagged by the end of the show.

I hope that bald fed gets his brains drilled out.

Man it's been a great season so far!

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:18 pm
by Cayenne
DARTH wrote:The only problem with that scene is that you had about 5-6 guys with auto shotguns and handguns about 40 feet from 2 guys with shit cover, half the time standing up and neither one of those feds have been tagged by the end of the show...

Ahh yes..."suspension of disbelief" can demand a great deal of a viewer (or reader) of fiction. It was almost laughable that with all the rounds being fired, no one had been hit. This could have been handled by just creating better cover for the DEA guys. Still, with this quality of plot, I am more than willing to cut the producers slack.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:51 pm
by Gav
Not knowing shit about guns, how likely would it be that Walt wouldn't get hit lying down on the back seat while the SUV is being sprayed with bullets?

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:10 am
by milosz
Cars make shitty barriers to gunfire IRL (at least on the inside - behind the car itself perhaps a bit better), but they're aiming (such as TV Nazis aim) toward the front of the car and higher than Walt is.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:12 am
by milosz
In that vein, Todd went from drawing from concealment and putting a round COM at 15 yards with decent speed to holding his gun like a 12-year old girl during the shootout.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:56 am
by Bram
That shoot-out looked like some BS, but I heard a rumor that the next episode is the best one of the series, looking forwards to tomorrow and hopefully they are going to tie together the Lily-in-the-Valley and Ricin mix-up -- I have to believe Jesse thinking it's Ricin has some plot point, otherwise it's a f'd up error on the writer's part.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:33 pm
by Cayenne
I also found Jesse's realization b/f being shuffled off to a new identity and opting instead to go slug Saul confusing. My obsession w/ BB led me to the AMC sight and reading some commentary.

As I understand, the writers tried to convey Jesse's realization to the audience the same way he experienced it. Silently, w/o the unrealistic device of the character talking (thinking) out loud. As Jesse stared down at his cigarette pack he realized the Huell had pick his pocket of the weed, which reminded him of a similar lifting of the cigarette pack during the Brock poisoning. I think the type of poison, (Lilly of the Valley vs. Riacin,) is less important than the fact that Jesse knows that Huell, for Saul, for Walt, picked Jesse's pocket, all as part of the scheme to poison Brock.

I realize the above probably does not clarify confusion, and may even increase it. I may even be wrong on a point or three. Still, I am: A) Just going with the flow of the story, i.e., Jesse now knows that Walt poisoned a kid and lied to Jesse about it, all for Walt's own selfish motives and; B) Convinced the writer's have the plot points down tight, even though a couple may have been delivered in a sub-optimal & confusing manner.

Enjoy these last 3 episodes !

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:58 am
by Bram
I just read a preview of part of tonights episode, looking forwards to it - going to grab a pack of Guiness and await the start.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:00 am
by Bram
I think you are right, Cayenne. It would be nice if all the ends were tied up, really not that big of a deal though.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:11 pm
by Cayenne
Bram, my Breaking Bad Brother: I watched last night's episode: Does drama get any more intense ? Unbelievable! and...another cliff hanger. (Also, another "loose end" tied up, i.e. Jane's death.)

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:11 pm
by Cayenne
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Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:44 pm
by Bram
Incredible episode.

The show may leave you with constant cliff-hangers, but it also delivers on them. Glad as well that the Jane thing was addressed.

I love how Walt's character is all over the map. Is he good? Bad? The question has yet to be settled.

I'm looking forwards to how the show reveals the fall-out/aftermath from this episode as well as what's to become of the main characters.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:40 pm
by DikTracy6000
Any predictions on how it ends? I didn't think Hank would get it, since he'd already been gunned down previously.
I'll go out on a limb.
Walt goes back after his money.
Jessie doesn't die.
Walt comes back to see his family one more time, possibly thinking about turning himself in, and his grief stricken, sister in-law guns him down with one of Hank's guns.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:50 pm
by Bram
I can see Marie taking revenge like that, huh, didn't think about it before you mentioned it.....

My guess:

He leaves for 1 year or so, the next episode will be the aftermath of that situation.

The finale is him coming back to town with the machine gun and poison.

He kills the Aryans to get his money. Maybe frees Jesse.

Jesse kills Todd. I don't think Jesse dies either.

Maybe Walt dies, maybe not.

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:08 pm
by Bram
1 more to go!

This last one not much happened (even though people got killed and Walt's on the lamb). Hoping for an epic finale.

Maybe Walt does blue meth and goes bonkers with the machine gun

*akakakakakakak*

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:16 am
by Bram

Re: Breaking Bad - Final Season *Spoilers*

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:20 pm
by Cayenne
Thanks for that link Bram. Interesting. The writer's meetings must have been terrific. Regarding this Sunday's finale, as I commented above, it is like the end of a great novel. Bittersweet.

On the one hand, I can't wait to see how they treat the various loose ends (for example, the way Walt "tortured" Jesse with the revelation that he, Walt, "let" Jane die in her own vomit,) and the "message" that is ultimately communicated. (i.e., Do the various "bad guys" get away with their badness or do they all "pay a price"? Meaning, the Nazis & Todd, Jesse, Lydia, Skyler, Saul and of course Walt. [To some extent, IMO, the H&W co-founders of "Gray Matter" have now been re-introduced into the plot line as "minor" bad guys, for minimizing/denying Walt's contribution to the company's founding. Wild how Walt's pride reaction upon hearing that Gray Matter lie created the energy to pull him out of his depressed, "I'm turning myself in," state, back toward action, now heading toward the M-60 climax...] How many more innocents (like Andrea) will suffer as collateral damage of the badness? Meaning, as far as I can think of right now, Marie & Flynn [Walt Jr.]


On the other hand, as my obsession displayed in this thread shows, I'll miss the show when it is gone.

(I'm already planning, to re-watch the series in the years to come, probably from my Concept 2 ergometer. I'm sure I'll see so many fine details in the re-watching, because it is a masterpiece.)