IronGarm

Received the promo email from DD yesterday. The title puts me off a little, but the content looks interesting. I ordered it.

http://www.dragondoor.com/b41.html

The fallout over the title is bad enough that JDC had to do damage control: http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/kettlebel ... oning.html

How completely fucking gay.

Unless they brought their gat, of course.

Jesus F. Christ! 6-8 years ago a couple of real inmates at some joint were trying to market that program. Isometrics, bodyweight squats with celly on your backand shit like that one could do while locked in a prison cell. Doesn't anybody remember? Big DD debate and mockery about how that's all anybody in stir has to do but work out, etc.
Now Pavel invents and DuCane markets. Bwahahahahaha!

Was that when there was the "Convict Burpee" workout making the rounds? Remember: do a burpee, walk across the room. Do 2, walk back. Do 3, walk back. Work up as high as you can.

It was supposed to be for guys whose "exercise" time was being allowed into a slightly larger room then their solitary-confinement cell. You had to work up to at least level 30 to "be a man" and not get reamed out like a Krispy Kreme donut.

Yeah and when they got into the larger exercise cage once a day, they could jog 1,244,302 laps around for a 3 mile run while staying current on there counting skills. Do running in place and jumping jacks for more cardio in the 4x6 solitary cell, etc.

Crossshit disrespected again....Ouch.

I'm always pleased when my decision not to participate in DD forum discussion is vindicated.

the fuck?

I'd be interested in a review, when someone gets it. This makes more sense than wilderness survival for most people. It's pretty easy to get sent to the house. And when you do, you'll likely need to get your shank wet, and get sent to abseg. No weights there....

Convicts and Roquefort? It's like Masterpiece Theater meets Da Hood.

Saddening that in their quest to be even more hardcore, people are now admiring convicts.

If the book offers tips on how to use a street sword for maximum effectiveness, this is true-- that is obviously.

The idea is not new anyway:
Solitary Fitness

Written by real and violent criminal.

ANAL LOCK!

c'mom you lazy bitches.

i know one of you bastards has a copy now. any reviews?

shaf, ab "here now gone tomorrow" god, PL54? dan john???? ducane didn't preview comp any of you?

someone has this.

Can we take up a collection to have John DuCane renditioned back to Africa?

Quit hatin' on the Afro-Americans.

I got mine yesterday. Sorry to disappoint, but nothing about sexual assaults, shankings or other crap. Wade lists recommended exercises along with "beginner", "intermediate" and "advanced" progressions, schedules and lots of advice. Lots of useful "weigh station" advice too. Also lists mental aspects and gives some hints.

He advocates slow calesthenics... I did not know I was doing it wrong all of this time. Especially going "balls out" and crashing and burning. I hate to quit, it grows tiresome.

Wade's closing thoughts on training, and trust, appeals to me a lot. You have to read it yourself to understand where he's coming from here.

A lot of stuff out there is written by athletes for athletes. More finishing school stuff than for detrained folks. Wade was used to teaching "fresh fish" who needed to get up to speed. So he has a multi layered work that benefits us drones, and might help some of you more advanced guys too.

I'd sure like to do pullups and climb again.

I'll roll with it from the beginner point since I'm pretty detrained right now and post results.

Gene

Initial Impressions....and note that I haven't gotten through all the exercise part. Thick book. Full of both text and pictures. Pretty information dense. Unfortunately my copy came damaged, so I'm a bit miffed about that.

The first part of the book is an entertaining and interesting read, but there is some shit I don't like:

1. It does spend a bit of time glorifying the convict as a sort of modern savage. The whole 300 Spartan shit is tired and people need to shut the fuck up about it.

2. It goes completely cliche wrt to bashing bodybuilders (like Furey and Kubik), and talking about how bodyweight training is the ultimate for health, physique, and strength. A lot of opinions. Also, so far all the pictures I've seen not of exercises demos are of guys like Grimek, or Bert Assirrati, or Charles Atlas, who used weights. Other cliches include bashing gyms in general, bashing cardio machines, bashing steroid users and professional athletes...it's interesting that he makes these moral and judgement calls when he's supposedly spent decades in prison. Also it rides the functional training cliches like it's a soft-bodied puerto rican bitch you traded a pack of smokes for. It really jumps right on Furey's original premise that lifting any weight will cause injury.

Some of the history stuff doesn't seem to be correct, either, or is misleading.

If you thought Kubik/Furey were tedious with that stuff, you'll find this just as insufferable.

If someone else published this, I think it would be bashing kettlebells.

There's some shit I'd like to say about bodyweight exercise, and this includes gymnastics stuff. First off, with regards to weight training. There's a reason that olympians use barbells and dumbbells. They get better strength and hypertrophy results with less time. Period. Ido Portal had a bit on Chris Sommers forum about how gymnastics upper body training was the best way to get better and stronger....it all comes down to that it just isn't time effective for most people. Can it be effective? Fuck yes. Are there better ways to get bigger and stronger faster than bodyweight training? Yes. And they won't kill you if you do it right either.

The Beastskills guy is in the pictures.

A quick note about progressions.

This book covers 6 exercises, push up, squat, pull up, leg raise, bridge, handstand push ups

There are 10 progressions for each exercise. There are specific guidelines on when to move up to the next progression, for example, for the push up:

Wall Pushups are the first exercise. YOu progress to the next step when you can do 3 sets of 50 wall push ups. The next step is an incline push up (upper body much higher than the feet), When you can do 3 sets of 40 incline push ups, you move onto kneeling push ups....etc

The progressions are logical and well though out and extensive. There are some advanced and alternate exercises in each category listed.

For those six movements, I'd think this was a pretty comprehensive systematic way of getting stronger.

For $40 I've bought worse books. This one is going to be valuable for me because I'll be able to use the progressions to help my two boys get stronger.

Also, I've just got this sneaking suspicion that Ducane wrote this.

as in the whole strossen/justa type thing? or as in a "coach paul wade" just does not exist way?

oh - and thanks for the reviews comrade convicts!

So when can we expect this to available for free download?

LOL

Edit

How does it compare the the Monkey Bar Gym videos as far as progression goes?

A lot get tired of the DD bashing machine, how many pages of ads were there?
Great to see an ex con be a great moralist and bash everything but being a criminal.
Could Ducane actually write something that isn't full of pictures?
I'd like to know if before going to the pen this guy lifted weights . . .