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Marine question

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:11 pm
by Hebrew Hammer
What's it take for a Marine to qualify to get assigned to Camp David to guard the President? Do they go through something like the Secret Service testing?

Re: marine question

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:12 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
"Marine"

Capitalize it.

Edit:

Thank You

Re: Marine question

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:56 pm
by baffled
I used to train with a guy who was in some Marine protection unit and commented on being there at some point. He could have been full of shit, but I didn't get the impression he was some sort of hot shot.

You're welcome.

Edit: he could fucking fight though. One of the fastest and strongest guys I ever had the displeasure of sparring with.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:18 am
by Holeyfraggaroley
They look for them early. You go to infantry school and then you go to other high speed low drag training. Interviewed for it in boot camp. I think they just toss it out there and see if any of the smart ones say they will try it. I wanted to be a helo mech and if I failed out of the training I would go to the grunts and that was a no go. I think it goes in the Embassy Guard pipeline but I am not sure. Its been a long time since all that happened so I am sure it is different now.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:01 pm
by Bob Wildes
Hebrew Hammer wrote:What's it take for a Marine to qualify to get assigned to Camp David to guard the President? Do they go through something like the Secret Service testing?
I served with a Mustang Officer in 2/2 that did a tour at Camp David during the Carter years. I wasn't curious about it and he didn't talk about it at length.

If you really want to know I can ask him about it.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:57 pm
by The Venerable Bogatir X
Bob Wildes wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:What's it take for a Marine to qualify to get assigned to Camp David to guard the President? Do they go through something like the Secret Service testing?
I served with a Mustang Officer in 2/2 that did a tour at Camp David during the Carter years. I wasn't curious about it and he didn't talk about it at length.

If you really want to know I can ask him about it.


I'm getting in my way back machine to the mid-80's myself. I am fairly certain that back then, Camp David guys went to MSG School (Embassy Duty school for non-Jarhead types). I was actually selected to MSG Duty and was dropped the first week due to a neck injury. Marshall Hall was a 'special' place....just about the whole damned building was a mock embassy. I recall our first night around 2AM crazy ass alarms going off and we pulled every can of soda out of vending machines looking for a mock bomb, amongst other tears. Nothing compared to those of you who saw actual combat, but somewhat gungee, nonetheless.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:03 pm
by DikTracy6000
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Bob Wildes wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:What's it take for a Marine to qualify to get assigned to Camp David to guard the President? Do they go through something like the Secret Service testing?
I served with a Mustang Officer in 2/2 that did a tour at Camp David during the Carter years. I wasn't curious about it and he didn't talk about it at length.

If you really want to know I can ask him about it.


I'm getting in my way back machine to the mid-80's myself. I am fairly certain that back then, Camp David guys went to MSG School (Embassy Duty school for non-Jarhead types). I was actually selected to MSG Duty and was dropped the first week due to a neck injury. Marshall Hall was a 'special' place....just about the whole damned building was a mock embassy. I recall our first night around 2AM crazy ass alarms going off and we pulled every can of soda out of vending machines looking for a mock bomb, amongst other tears. Nothing compared to those of you who saw actual combat, but somewhat gungee, nonetheless.
Were they shaken and then popped open to simulate some realism?

Re: Marine question

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:17 pm
by The Venerable Bogatir X
DikTracy6000 wrote:
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Bob Wildes wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:What's it take for a Marine to qualify to get assigned to Camp David to guard the President? Do they go through something like the Secret Service testing?
I served with a Mustang Officer in 2/2 that did a tour at Camp David during the Carter years. I wasn't curious about it and he didn't talk about it at length.

If you really want to know I can ask him about it.


I'm getting in my way back machine to the mid-80's myself. I am fairly certain that back then, Camp David guys went to MSG School (Embassy Duty school for non-Jarhead types). I was actually selected to MSG Duty and was dropped the first week due to a neck injury. Marshall Hall was a 'special' place....just about the whole damned building was a mock embassy. I recall our first night around 2AM crazy ass alarms going off and we pulled every can of soda out of vending machines looking for a mock bomb, amongst other tears. Nothing compared to those of you who saw actual combat, but somewhat gungee, nonetheless.
Were they shaken and then popped open to simulate some realism?
Ask Garm, he'll tell you what you want to know.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:24 pm
by Bob Wildes
I just saw that my old Marine buddy replied to my question.

Back in the Carter administration days the process was a Marine had to be an 03 ( Infantryman)
with a secret clearance. He said you could not volunteer for it. They picked you.

Eventually the Marine would get a top secret clearance before assuming the billet.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:50 am
by Hebrew Hammer
Thanks for all the information. Very helpful.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:28 pm
by Bob Wildes
That Marine said that the prospective Marine went through a "Yankee White" vetting process which was
long and drawn out. The Marines that were picked received a top secret clearance with White Access.

A very minor detail is that the Marine had to have a high school diploma.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:52 pm
by The Venerable Bogatir X
Bob Wildes wrote:That Marine said that the prospective Marine went through a "Yankee White" vetting process which was
long and drawn out. The Marines that were picked received a top secret clearance with White Access.
Are you talking about the vetting process where they ask you every which way from Tuesday how you best like to sniff glue from a bike seat or the one where the first thing they say to the dark green CPL is "sit down, nigger...." I've been through both and don't recall "Yankee White" (but my lack of recollection in this regard means nothing, of course).

Re: Marine question

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:26 am
by Bob Wildes
I have no idea what "Yankee White" means. I only had a secret clearance.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:10 pm
by Lewis Medlock
Yankee White comes from their white trousers. They also have YW painted on their book.

sorry it was in bad form to run down anyone who served.

Re: Marine question

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:19 pm
by The Venerable Bogatir X
Lewis Medlock wrote:Yankee White comes from their white trousers. They also have YW painted on their book.

Having been 3/6 and then 3/2 and knowing a bunch of them that were sent to the fleet because they lost their tsc because of DUI or bad checks that kind of thing, I have nothing nice to say. They were worse than the barracks duty Marines that ended up back in the fleet.
This is likely before many of your times, but Google Lonetree and Bracy....every single solitary guy who ever even had a breath of air in the vicinity of those guys was pulled from duty and sent to Quantico to sit and rot in an old, open squad bay while NIS and whoever else did what they needed to do. So when I got hurt and was dropped, I lived with those guys in that squad bay for awhile. I had the option to extend, to stay and go to the next class, but frankly I was talked out of it by those guys, so I got my old EAS back and finished up in Yuma. I have no real regrets, but the thought of what kind of secret squirrel shit I could have done after that still pops in my pea brain from time to time.

I could see where an 03xx like you who was constantly in the field would be unimpressed with an MSG coming off of a couple of years of fine dining and wearing tailored suits in Europe with their 500 point PFT's (do they still allow MSG's to score above 300 on a PFT? Is there still a PFT?). But those mofo's who stood in say, Chad were probably a different flavor all together. (I know I am dating myself, again and frankly don't even know if Chad is still a nation but it was a shithole back then.)

Re: Marine question

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:55 pm
by Bob Wildes
Lewis Medlock wrote:Yankee White comes from their white trousers. They also have YW painted on their book.

Having been 3/6 and then 3/2 and knowing a bunch of them that were sent to the fleet because they lost their tsc because of DUI or bad checks that kind of thing, I have nothing nice to say. They were worse than the barracks duty Marines that ended up back in the fleet.

I served with the, now retired Marine, that supplied the information in 2/2 between '83-'85. He would be the
exception to the rule, because he was outstanding.

As an aside he told me that one of Mondale's girls was a punk ass brat.