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Oh, I can see his point. Suing the guy's widow will undoubtedly clear and clean his reputation. Fucking brilliant. I wonder why nobody else thought of that.

With everybody we've got on here surely someone has a little insider information on this. I just can't see why the guy would lie about punching Ventura...anybody know anything? The bar had to be packed...what's everyone else said that was there? I dig Jesse but he's become increasingly more "out there" since his time as governor. If he did get punched though, how could he think he could make a case in court?

New Yorker profile of Kyle from a week or two ago mentions some obvious fabrications he repeatedly told - shooting a carjacker in Texas and just being on his way, sniping 30 people from the roof of the Superdome during Katrina. Don't know if he was just that kind of guy or if it was some kind of PTSD or what.

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You managed to top yourself this time FC.

Google stalked his widow...would love to be there to comfort her.

It's probably about Ventura getting witnesses in court to testify about what they did or did not see.

milosz wrote:New Yorker profile of Kyle from a week or two ago mentions some obvious fabrications he repeatedly told - shooting a carjacker in Texas and just being on his way, sniping 30 people from the roof of the Superdome during Katrina. Don't know if he was just that kind of guy or if it was some kind of PTSD or what.

The New Yorker accusing others of fabrication, well-pot, kettle,black.
Ventura accusing others of making shit up, well-pot, kettle, black.
Martial law was declared after Katrina. Plenty of evidence the police shot looters. 'Contractors' were hired. Not too unbelievable.
No idea on the car jacking but reportedly there were credible witnesses backing the punching out story. 2nd hand information, that.

Yes, it's true...the elite of the elite when it comes to US military special forces were deployed to Katrina via executive order so that they could sit on top of the Super Dome and shoot niggers stealing bottled water, canned food, and beer. So plausible.

Kyle fabricated the story about shooting a two would-be carjackers in Texas (complete with "under the armpit" shot.) It's bullshit.

The story of SF killing civilians in New Orleans is also BS. His buddy at SOFREP pulled the story after enough people threw the BS flag.

I reckon the Ventura story is BS, too.

(Who'd a thunk that someone that wrote a book proclaiming himself America's top sniper would be prone to embellishment or fabrication. Not that anyone ever called SEALs quiet professionals anyway...)

That said, Ventura needs to drop the suit with the widow. I'm sure he's been pissed at Kyle since Kyle 'humblebragged' about the incident.

Kazuya Mishima wrote:Yes, it's true...the elite of the elite when it comes to US military special forces were deployed to Katrina via executive order so that they could sit on top of the Super Dome and shoot niggers stealing bottled water, canned food, and beer. So plausible.

Who said anything about employing the elite (SEALs aren't the elite of the elite, sorry to bust your crush). I said contractors. Try to follow along.

Tirofijo wrote:Kyle fabricated the story about shooting a two would-be carjackers in Texas (complete with "under the armpit" shot.) It's bullshit.

The story of SF killing civilians in New Orleans is also BS. His buddy at SOFREP pulled the story after enough people threw the BS flag.

I reckon the Ventura story is BS, too.

(Who'd a thunk that someone that wrote a book proclaiming himself America's top sniper would be prone to embellishment or fabrication. Not that anyone ever called SEALs quiet professionals anyway...)

That said, Ventura needs to drop the suit with the widow. I'm sure he's been pissed at Kyle since Kyle 'humblebragged' about the incident.

Bingo.

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Kazuya Mishima wrote:Yes, it's true...the elite of the elite when it comes to US military special forces were deployed to Katrina via executive order so that they could sit on top of the Super Dome and shoot niggers stealing bottled water, canned food, and beer. So plausible.

Who said anything about employing the elite (SEALs aren't the elite of the elite, sorry to bust your crush). I said contractors. Try to follow along.

Brandon Webb of SOFREP.com did, citing his dead friend Chris Kyle. He pulled the story. But fragments linger on the interweb.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-sp ... r-katrina/

Tirofijo wrote: Brandon Webb of SOFREP.com did, citing his dead friend Chris Kyle. He pulled the story. But fragments linger on the interweb.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-sp ... r-katrina/

That story says guys took leave to work as contractors (with Blackwater no less) and, the unspecified number, "racked up 30 kills between them." Plausible. Every bit as plausible as the NSA spying on US citizens or it being legal for drones to kill American citizens. Very different than the assertion above that the NY'er claimed Kyle was deployed as a SEAL and made 30 kills himself.

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Tirofijo wrote: Brandon Webb of SOFREP.com did, citing his dead friend Chris Kyle. He pulled the story. But fragments linger on the interweb.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-sp ... r-katrina/

That story says guys took leave to work as contractors (with Blackwater no less) and, the unspecified number, "racked up 30 kills between them." Plausible. Every bit as plausible as the NSA spying on US citizens or it being legal for drones to kill American citizens. Very different than the assertion above that the NY'er claimed Kyle was deployed as a SEAL and made 30 kills himself.

Get your head out of your ass, it's totally implausible that there were 30+ people shot to death by SEALs, mercs, or fucking imperial stormtroopers in NOLA and nobody said anything to anyone. Bitch please.

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Get your head out of your ass, it's totally implausible that there were 30+ people shot to death by SEALs, mercs, or fucking imperial stormtroopers in NOLA and nobody said anything to anyone. Bitch please.

I for one don't want to live in an A'murka where a government employee can't take a vacation to pick up sidework shooting minorities under the color of martial law,

Fat Cat wrote: Get your head out of your ass, it's totally implausible that there were 30+ people shot to death by SEALs, mercs, or fucking imperial stormtroopers in NOLA and nobody said anything to anyone. Bitch please.

So let me see if I have this straight. It's known Blackwater was there. It's known that the Justice Dept ordered a full investigation of New Orleans PD after the fact for the excessive use of deadly force, with a known 11 or more killed by said police, with some officers claiming they were given orders to do so. But you find it entirely implausible that Blackwater hired military guys on leave, a company that hires military and nothing but all day long,to partake in security duties and some of them got carried away. I mean that's as unbelievable as a guy could kidnap and hold hostage in his basement 3 women for 10 years and nobody would notice or say anything. Would it be believable if they killed 10 and embellished the other 20?

And why would anybody say anything anyway-ironically they'd be called full of shit wouldn't they?

LOL dude, in case you are having a hard time following along, I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen I am saying it DID NOT HAPPEN, and that there would be evidence of it if it had, much like every other thing which you are citing in support of your fantasy. I get that you don't like Ventura and are defending Kyle, but the sad truth is that they are/were both idiots.

The guys at the bar and the bar owner himself said that no such incident ever took place. Ventura's no saint, but he's at least got some principles, and he's got the SEALs at the bar, including the owner, backing up his story. Why people choose to believe the other guy is a mystery to me.

LULZ at all these tales of Blackwater Nigger Extermination Unit. Where are the bodies of the looters with military grade ammo pulled out of their corpses? You think all those people recovered after Katrina were just piled into dead nigger storage, and then buried in mass graves with nary an inspection. Nope, they all went to the state examiner for proper autopsy and certified cause of death. Any poor picaninny with their burr head blowed clean off would have set off a red flag.

Probably the worst thing that happened was the ad hoc militias that were formed to keep "outsiders" from coming into some of the non-flooded areas in the burbs. Know what...I don't fucking blame them. Niggers ain't getting my daughters and potted meat. Back to the Super Dome, Calhoun.

The term "hero" gets tossed around way too easy.

Fat Cat wrote:LOL dude, in case you are having a hard time following along, I'm not saying it COULDN'T happen I am saying it DID NOT HAPPEN, and that there would be evidence of it if it had, much like every other thing which you are citing in support of your fantasy. I get that you don't like Ventura and are defending Kyle, but the sad truth is that they are/were both idiots.

For the record, I don't believe this happened. Tracing back what I wrote, the statement was "Not too unbelievable" followed by a plausibility argument. To call BS on those that believe that what the NY'er says is perfectly and unquestionably true or, worse yet, Ventura but Kyle is a dyed in the wool liar. If a guy can get away with kidnapping not 1 but 3 women for 10 years and holding them hostage, then it's not beyond the pale that even just a couple of wayward fucktards could pull off killing some people in the night in the aftermath of Katrina where 4k died. It was martial law-there weren't tens of witnesses like they were at the mall or some school playground.

And, yeah, you hit it on the head. I am defending Kyle. Not because I know him or his family or his buddies. He did yeoman's work in Iraq and paid the emotional price. He is part of my extended brotherhood, even in the Navy, even as a SEAL and I have no love affair. And no I don't like the fuckity fucking fuck's who all of sudden have lots to say about the guy after he's dead and gone, can't defend himself or his integrity. His wife and family live with that and this cock n' bullshit lawsuit from a guy who oughta know better.

Kazuya Mishima wrote:LULZ at all these tales of Blackwater Nigger Extermination Unit. Where are the bodies of the looters with military grade ammo pulled out of their corpses? You think all those people recovered after Katrina were just piled into dead nigger storage, and then buried in mass graves with nary an inspection. Nope, they all went to the state examiner for proper autopsy and certified cause of death. Any poor picaninny with their burr head blowed clean off would have set off a red flag.

Probably the worst thing that happened was the ad hoc militias that were formed to keep "outsiders" from coming into some of the non-flooded areas in the burbs. Know what...I don't fucking blame them. Niggers ain't getting my daughters and potted meat. Back to the Super Dome, Calhoun.

Only if you believe it was some planned and organized plot, that military grade ammunition can't be found any fucking where if it would have even been used, that most 7.62 NATO and above won't stop inside a body most of the time and a head shot isn't the first choice.

Where are you getting the 4,000 fatalities from Katrina?