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HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:13 pm
by Andy83
Did you like him and his politics?

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:27 pm
by robby mor
He died eight years ago.
He was held in animated suspension untill his heart stopped working today.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:37 pm
by Andy83
That's about right except for spin. He was in a coma and just quit recently. Did you like him?

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:09 pm
by robby mor
Don't like polititians as a general rule but I have a few stories about him as I was friends with one of his sons.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:21 pm
by Andy83
Waiting for HH to weigh in on this.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:15 pm
by Kraj 2.0
Andy80 wrote:Waiting for HH to weigh in on this.
He's still crying his eyes out.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:39 pm
by Kenny X
He's like the cops. He's always around when you don't want him there, and he's never around when you need him.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:23 am
by Hebrew Hammer
Sharon was a warrior. He was a ferocious military leader, and his politics tended to follow the same approach. Looking back, he was blamed for triggering the second intifada, but we now know that his visit was the pretext for a long-planned revolt. In retrospect, his decision in Gaza was disastrous, but he made a calculated gamble and lost.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:24 am
by Hebrew Hammer
robby mor wrote:Don't like polititians as a general rule but I have a few stories about him as I was friends with one of his sons.
Let's hear your stories.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:01 am
by Andy83
Hebrew Hammer wrote:Sharon was a warrior. He was a ferocious military leader, and his politics tended to follow the same approach. Looking back, he was blamed for triggering the second intifada, but we now know that his visit was the pretext for a long-planned revolt. In retrospect, his decision in Gaza was disastrous, but he made a calculated gamble and lost.
He was a man of peace. What he meant was to stop shooting at us and let us grab all the land we want.

Re: HH. Ar!riel Sheron died!

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:43 pm
by Turdacious
Had Ariel Sharon never entered politics, he would still be known around the world as a military commander and tactician. In both roles, he was extraordinary, because his methods diverged from normal military practices, even in the unconventional Israeli army.

Consider the Yom Kippur War. On October 16, 1973, ten days after Egypt’s army surprised the Israelis by crossing the Suez Canal, Sharon turned defeat into victory by leading his own troops across the canal through a narrow gap in the Egyptian front. The Israelis swiftly spread out behind the Egyptians, overrunning anti-aircraft batteries and blocking supply and reinforcement routes.

Within six days, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat had to plead for an immediate, unconditional ceasefire: so many Egyptian units were cut off, wrecked by air strikes, under attack, or fully encircled that no major forces were left to stop the advancing Israelis – not even to guard the road to Cairo.

The Egyptian high command was convinced that Sharon’s crossing was only an overnight raid by light forces. Their reasoning was sound: The Israelis did not control even their own side of the canal, so they could not possibly reinforce the first wave of a few hundred men with a handful of tanks. Rather than pulling their units back across the canal to chase the raiding Israelis, the Egyptian commanders believed that their forces could capture all of them by converging toward one another, thus closing the two-mile gap that Sharon had exploited.
Sharon’s superiors agreed with their Egyptian counterparts. They ordered Sharon to stop sending forces across the canal, and instead to widen the gap on the Israeli side. Sharon did not obey, pleading communications difficulties while sending as many of his forces as possible across the canal. He calculated that attacking the Egyptians from their own rear – destroying the missile batteries that impeded the Israeli air force, ambushing reinforcements and supplies, and simply causing massive confusion across the entire front – would induce organizational collapse in the Egyptian army.
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