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new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:44 pm
by WildGorillaMan
Cage-Match Gunfighting. It's even called TACTICAL!

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/tacti ... r-near-you
Tactical fast-draw could bring gunfights to a bar near you

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Later this month, two guys plan to walk into a North Las Vegas bar and shoot each other.

The combatants will be wearing ballistics-grade head and body armor, carrying dinner plate-sized forearm shields and modified police-issue 9 mm Glocks.

They will be standing at opposite ends of a 30-by-8-foot steel cage — fully enclosed, UFC-style — in the middle of what used to be a couple of stage-side tabletops at Whiskey Dick’s, 2750 E. Craig Road.

That’s where a new sport, known to its North Las Vegas-based creators as tactical fast draw, is set to make its Jan. 31 debut.

“You’ll get two points for a head shot and one point for anything to the (body) vest,” fast draw inventor and former bounty hunter Nephi Oliva said. “You can score a maximum of 12 points, but there’s no time limit, so it’s almost like a boxing match with bullets.”

Oliva has been kicking around the idea of starting a fast draw league for years but had to wait until this month to get a firearms instruction certificate needed to handle “Simunition,” the plastic-tipped, paint-filled training ammunition to be used by fast draw’s gunslingers.

Simunition rounds aren’t as loud as a standard 9 mm round — and can’t be fired out of a regular gun barrel — but they’re built around a regular 9 mm casing and travel at a velocity much higher than paintball guns.

A round hitting an unarmored fast draw gunslinger might not break the skin but is sure to leave a nasty bruise. The Simunition website says that wearing head, throat and groin protection is mandatory and calls the cartridges “nonlethal.” It “strongly recommends” that shooters stay anywhere from 1 foot to 6 feet away from each other, depending on the type of ammunition used.

Oliva, the founder and owner of North Las Vegas-based Nevada Pigeon Control, recently invested $6,000 for a dozen Simunition-modified Glocks to help get fast draw off the ground.

He and three business partners at the American Gunfighter Association, the fledgling sport’s sanctioning body, expect to earn that seed money back quickly, explaining they are already in talks to install fast draw cages at several bars around the valley.

Fast draw’s appeal, according to its founders, lies in its accessibility.

To Oliva, the sport isn’t a barroom gimmick or a claustrophobic take on indoor paintball. It is a complete entertainment experience, a gender-neutral mix between mixed martial arts and video gaming, featuring disc jockeys, ring announcers, nicknamed gunfighters and just about everything else short of a fog machine.

But beneath it all, he said, fast draw is just an especially flashy way to teach people how to use a gun properly.

“Training for firearms is relatively boring,” Oliva said. “Ultimately, we are a firearms instruction company, and we offer training through sports to make it more appealing.

“People will ask, ‘Aren’t you promoting violence?’ My answer is that people like George Zimmerman existed because something like (fast draw) didn’t,” he said.

Zimmerman’s trial on charges of fatally shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Florida in 2012 sparked protests around the nation with discussions of “stand your ground” laws. He was acquitted in July.

For Whiskey Dick’s owner Rich Tyson, fast draw is good business.

Tyson, who helped found the bar in 2010, said at first he was a little wary about taking on the sport.

Then he started to imagine all the bar’s booths and stools filled with fast draw spectators, its most prominent gunslingers donning a Whiskey Dick’s-sponsored protective vest.

From there, he was just about sold.

“Our biggest concern was obviously safety,” Tyson said. “But they’re going to be in this cage that’s lined with Plexiglas, and I know (Oliva) has been working with the cops to make sure everything is safe.

“I’m not really a big gun guy, but I think the idea is pretty neat. I’d wanna come over and watch it if I didn’t own the place.”

North Las Vegas Police Department spokeswoman Chrissie Coon said police are “looking into the (sport’s) legality.”

“We’ve always taken the stance that guns and alcohol don’t mix, but there’s still a lot to review with the city attorney before we take an official position,” she said.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:47 pm
by kreator
What could go wrong?

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:53 pm
by TomFurman
Using airsoft guns at point blank/abdominal contact range with my Israeli/Russian crew,.. we had the strangest welts during disarms.
I can't imagine how stupid this is.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:39 pm
by Dirt McGirt
AND, simunitions are markedly worse than Airsoft. In a former military assignment as an instructor, we got pretty good at discerning the un-armored areas on the pukes doing their CQB training, and could produce some pretty spectacular welts, if not break the skin.

But really, calm down everyone. Messing around with 'blanks' of any type is totally safe...

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Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:09 pm
by DARTH
I was waiting for the John Eric Hexem references to start.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:34 pm
by Dirt McGirt
I am glad I appeased.

The comparison came to mind because I actually remember watching that first season and thinking the show was not *that* bad, then bummed to hear the dude shot himself in the head.

Of course, it was no "The Master," but hey, we had to make do with our 3 channels in 1984, right?

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:37 pm
by Dirt McGirt
BTW, I have absolutely no intel on the guy in that pic who created this game, but just for wearing a shemagh in a LV casino, he is a total douche.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:37 pm
by Dirt McGirt
Double Post.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:50 pm
by WildGorillaMan
DARTH wrote:I was waiting for the John Eric Hexem references to start.
That was indeed perhaps the most obscure pop-culture reference anyone's made on this board in at least a year.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:04 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
WildGorillaMan wrote:
DARTH wrote:I was waiting for the John Eric Hexem references to start.
That was indeed perhaps the most obscure pop-culture reference anyone's made on this board in at least a year.

Darth is a sleeper like that.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:43 am
by tough old man
I was going to go with a Brandon Lee / Crow reference.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:22 am
by Holeyfraggaroley
tough old man wrote:I was going to go with a Brandon Lee / Crow reference.
Damn it TOM you beat me to it. Good movie.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:52 am
by Mickey O'neil
tough old man wrote:I was going to go with a Brandon Lee / Crow reference.
That's what I thought about as well.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:17 pm
by j-cubed
I remember that show, it wasn't too bad, for the 80's. I think it was called "Cover up". He also was in a show before that where he had some pocket watch that let him time travel with a little kid. Kind of like quantum leap, before Bakula.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:20 pm
by Shafpocalypse Now
So, is it OK to wear a shemagh when you are doing yard work in the brutal texas sun? A lot of the landscape crews have t-shirts wrapped around their head like a shemagh. I was thinking of getting one in the Saudi royal colors to wear when mowing the lawn.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:33 pm
by Kazuya Mishima
j-cubed wrote:I remember that show, it wasn't too bad, for the 80's. I think it was called "Cover up". He also was in a show before that where he had some pocket watch that let him time travel with a little kid. Kind of like quantum leap, before Bakula.
Holy flashbacks, Batman!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers!

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:55 pm
by DARTH
Dirt McGirt wrote:I am glad I appeased.

The comparison came to mind because I actually remember watching that first season and thinking the show was not *that* bad, then bummed to hear the dude shot himself in the head.

Of course, it was no "The Master," but hey, we had to make do with our 3 channels in 1984, right?
Hell yeah!

Cover Up was pretty good when he was on it and he killed more people than the Master.

The Equalizer and Miami Vice was the shit back then, with Magnum PI being pretty good on average, sometimes great.

Re: new sport for you high speed low drag mall ninjas

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:19 pm
by emac437
Magnum or GTFO!

Old school 1911, Ferrari, lived on an estate for free…come on!