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Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:37 pm
by Shafpocalypse Now
Saw some of these at costco, started researching them online. Does anyone here use them?
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 12:23 am
by Grandpa's Spells
I personally have a gas grill but a charcoal smoker, so I'm not anti-gas. Southern Pride is also a major brand for BBQ joints that uses pellets of some kind, and is used by some high-end places.
That said, there are BBQ competitors who do everything on a Weber Smokey Mountain cooker (also called a bullet)' which is what I have. Inexpensive and extremely reliable temperature control. You can buy aftermarket thermostats to lock temperature in and even manage over the web. I don't know what advantage a gas unit could bring, since BBQ is a multi-hour deal and saving 15 min for charcoal to get going isn't really useful.
WSM is pretty much perfect unless you are cooking for large crowds and want to have only one cooker running (which has disadvantages but saves space).
A Big Green Egg can do a similar job, albeit with about 40% capacity, but also can also run very hot for steaks and other grilling.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 12:59 am
by j-cubed
I don't have a pellet smoker, but a smoker and grill with the side fire box. If I had to do it again I'd go Big Green Egg. It really is the best out there.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 1:07 am
by bennyonesix
Pellets are ok. Burn hot and fast. They work but...
UDS
Ugly Drum Smoker
Eastern Cackalacky Style BBQ only
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:07 am
by Yes I Have Balls
Spells, I have the WSM and I love it! But what after market device is there that controls the temp the unit is running? IME< using charcoal is a trickier way to do it, having to often open/close vents, change the water, add more charcoal, etc.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:30 am
by Grandpa's Spells
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Spells, I have the WSM and I love it! But what after market device is there that controls the temp the unit is running? IME< using charcoal is a trickier way to do it, having to often open/close vents, change the water, add more charcoal, etc.
I have the BBQ Guru, because it was the first to market. There's also a company putting out something called the Stoker. They all work on a similar concept. Close all bottom vents except one which has a fan attached. A thermometer goes on the grates. Both connect to a computer, you input what you want the temp to be and the fan maintains that temperature. Amazing for overnight cooks. Some will also monitor food temp and ramp temperature, but that's not such a big deal to me. Others have built in wifi and web server so you can monitor/change temperature from a PC or smartphone.
Mine doesn't do I web stuff, but just being able to dial in is great.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 11:36 am
by The Venerable Bogatir X
A good buddy has that WSM and loves it. Great temp control, even in Minnesota winters. Another of my buddies is in Chicago like Spells and he competes smoking pork butts now and then and does well with his WSM.
Shaf, when I lived in TX, HEB used to see the barrel smokers dirt cheap, you might want to cut your smoking chops on one of those as they're like 1/20th the cost of those pellet ones, I think. In TX, maintaining your temp is far less of a challenge than it is up here. When in Rome.......
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 1:40 pm
by bennyonesix
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Spells, I have the WSM and I love it! But what after market device is there that controls the temp the unit is running? IME< using charcoal is a trickier way to do it, having to often open/close vents, change the water, add more charcoal, etc.
Tread very carefully here, my friend. That way lies madness, obsession and an empty wallet.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 1:45 pm
by bennyonesix
On reflection I agree that the WSM is hard to beat.
But if you want to build your own for cheap and make really good BBQ:
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=23436
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 1:57 pm
by aussie luke
Basic Weber kettle will do most things: grill, roast, low and slow, can add smoke chips etc
I wanted to make a UDS but really unless you need to cook a fuckload of meat all the time and can be arsed to fuck around with it all the time, why bother really.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:43 pm
by bennyonesix
Because it makes me feel like an un-Enslerized Max Rockatansky is why.
And damn, if I am in for 10+hrs I am making a fuckload of que. I think it freezes pretty well...
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:57 pm
by Hanglow Joe
Agree with Aussie Luke.
I have 2 grills, a Weber Gas and a Weber Kettle Grill. I smoke brisket and ribs on it. Just add hickory chunks from Wal-Mart. Bought it for $90 ten years ago, still going strong, but I'm getting a new one with an ash catcher, the wife doesn't like the ashes on the new deck.
I leave it uncovered all winter and it has 2 rust spots on it. The cleaning handle rusted off 4 years ago. Other than that, the Weber is indestructible.
My worry about the Big Green Egg, is it's ceramic. If you accidentally tipped it over, it would smash. Plus the cooking capacity is small.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:09 pm
by bennyonesix
I have never heard anyone regret buying a WSM.
I don't think I have ever heard of anyone knocking over a BGE by accident. They are damn heavy.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:20 pm
by aussie luke
I've got a weber baby q gasser and an old weber kettle I bought used for $20. It was knackered then and it still is but it still cooks beautifully. Also have a weber smokey Joe which is cool and cute as fuck. Used to use it nearly every day for steaks and sausages etc (before we had kids)
Have messed around with putting a couple of bricks in the big weber to keep all the direct heat away from the meat for real low and slow cooks. Worked pretty well but I'm always happy with the old standard indirect weber roast.
If you buy a weber kettle and get bored of it you can use the parts with an old drum to make a UDS. The lid should fit a standard drum I believe.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:12 am
by Jonny Canuck
I had a Bradley smoker but it broke after two weeks and the company didn't honor their warranty.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:25 pm
by Pinky
Don't buy anything yet!
Harvard engineers have invented a new and improved smoker. It's designed to produce perfect results every time, and it's guaranteed to match all of the Williams & Sonoma gear you already own.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:25 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Ugh. They built a kamado smoker with a thermostat, and are testing it next to a pre-existing kamado smoker with what appears to be a pre-existing thermostat. They didn't invent anything.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:24 am
by Pinky
I don't know what you're talking about. They invented something new for MIT engineers to laugh about.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:11 pm
by The Crawdaddy
Pinky wrote:I don't know what you're talking about. They invented something new for MIT engineers to laugh about.
hey! Nice prediction Pinko! I did laugh my ass off!
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 1:06 am
by Sangoma
Big Green Egg is the gold standard of charcoal barbecues. I had one, but managed to smash it, and now this brand is not available in Australia anymore. The replacement - Chinese Camado - is bigger, even built more solidly BUT does not have the same aerodynamics. Coals take long time to heat up, while in The Egg it was literally 15 minutes.
Re: Wood Pellet smokers/grills
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:55 pm
by bennyonesix
The Gold Standard in BBQ is a sweaty 400lb black dude in front of a wood fired pit on which cooks a whole pig.