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Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:32 pm
by seeahill
My dog Dex, has started snapping at other dogs. Air snaps, but still snaps. He's a male 4 year old Brittany, 58 pounds, and nobody's Alpha dog. We usually walk on mountain trails, where he is just fine with other dogs we meet. But the snow is deep and we have been going to the dog park. At the park, when I stop walking and chat with people, he tends to snap at other dogs. Only the ones that are substantially bigger than he is.

As you may recall, he is a rescue who was tied to a tree in Winnemucca NV for the whole first year of his life. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Some points: he doesn't snap if I'm walking. Only when I stop. He doesn't show any obvious signs of agitation or excitement before the snap.

I have been making him sit and stay when he snaps.

Any other ideas?

Thank you.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:51 pm
by Sangoma
The best thing I have ever done with my dog is training her with the remote collar. I highly recommend researching this option. It is not a straightforward tool and can be abused, like everything else, so consulting a coach or reading literature on the topic is important. You can check out Amazon reviews of Dogtra or other collars, some of them are pretty revealing. From my modest experience with dogs remote collar gives the quickest results with least headache.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:02 pm
by seeahill
Thanks Sang. I actually have an ecollar and use it. I just don't know exactly how I'd use it in this situation. My dog thinks it means "Come." And he comes right to me, every time. I'd like to figure out a way that doesn't confuse him.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:05 am
by The Venerable Bogatir X
No offense to Smet, but I didn't even read his reply to you. I am too old, too tired, too blind,,,,


Anyhow, I know a thing or 50 about training dogs and behavior modification as you know. Call me, I think I can quickly help you. You're doing the right thing by way of obedience as communication vs. punishment, but I suspect your delivery is not the way it should be (and you'd likely be surprised at the recommended delivery). FYI, every dog named Dex I've known has been awesome, so if he ends up fucked up, all your fault.....no pressure or nothing. ;-)

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:11 am
by buckethead
Try drowning and reviving it. Seems to shut beings up

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:22 am
by seeahill
I will track you down to that ramshackle trailer you live in and drive a fucking wooden stake through your buckethead.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:42 am
by buckethead
Forget my last. It looks as if the near death might make it even angrier, and delusional as well

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:43 am
by Mickey O'neil
Hahahahaha!

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:59 am
by Boris
The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: You're doing the right thing by way of obedience as communication vs. punishment, but I suspect your delivery is not the way it should be (and you'd likely be surprised at the recommended delivery).
Could you just post it here? I'd like to hear the advice too. I think I have a pretty good handle on dog behavior, but I'm always open to good learning.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:29 pm
by The Crawdaddy
Boris wrote:
The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: You're doing the right thing by way of obedience as communication vs. punishment, but I suspect your delivery is not the way it should be (and you'd likely be surprised at the recommended delivery).
Could you just post it here? I'd like to hear the advice too. I think I have a pretty good handle on dog behavior, but I'm always open to good learning.
Double down on this request.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:01 pm
by The Venerable Bogatir X
The Crawdaddy wrote:
Boris wrote:
The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: You're doing the right thing by way of obedience as communication vs. punishment, but I suspect your delivery is not the way it should be (and you'd likely be surprised at the recommended delivery).
Could you just post it here? I'd like to hear the advice too. I think I have a pretty good handle on dog behavior, but I'm always open to good learning.
Double down on this request.
I put a shit ton of dog training stuff on FSF ages ago. I don't know if Mario kept it or let it go, but please search for it and 'bump' anything you find and I promise I will look at all of it and clean up as necessary.

I will say this: if I were a dog trainer in the age of the internet, I would make the Wiki on BF Skinner's OC mandatory readi

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:36 pm
by seeahill
If the Venerable B deigns to speak with me, I will relay that info here.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:58 pm
by Andy83
A Brittany is usually a very sweet loving gentle dog. Reddish in color and the strange dog is probably a racist that called him a Redskin. Tell your dog the stranger is a muslim and they'll be friends forever.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:24 pm
by Bobby
My dog is easily sidetracked.If he starts barking at another dog I only have to show him a ball (not of the human kind....) and he focuses on the ball instead.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:43 pm
by Turdacious
It's just your dog's way of telling you your cabin is not on fire.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:10 pm
by seeahill
Andy82 wrote:A Brittany is usually a very sweet loving gentle dog. Reddish in color and the strange dog is probably a racist that called him a Redskin. Tell your dog the stranger is a muslim and they'll be friends forever.
Most dogs are Muslim. You see that thing the politically correct call a "play bow?" That's Muslim praying right there. Anyone can see it. We should never have let them into this country. Build a wall, you say?. Ha! They'll piss on your wall.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:35 pm
by baffled
Bobby wrote:My dog is easily sidetracked.If he starts barking at another dog I only have to show him a ball (not of the human kind....) and he focuses on the ball instead.
Think about how we must see you if you have to explain you don't flash your nuts at your dog in public.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:27 pm
by Bobby
baffled wrote:
Bobby wrote:My dog is easily sidetracked.If he starts barking at another dog I only have to show him a ball (not of the human kind....) and he focuses on the ball instead.
Think about how we must see you if you have to explain you don't flash your nuts at your dog in public.
It is the warmest december I`ve ever lived through here in Sweden,but not even I walk the dog naked,think that is more of a Shape thing.....

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:12 pm
by TerryB
Have you considered getting rid of filthy pets?

Once you're past adolescence, there is no need to bond with an animal.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:58 pm
by Bobby
:finga:
TerryB wrote:Have you considered getting rid of filthy pets?

Once you're past adolescence, there is no need to bond with an animal.
:finga: :finga: :finga: !

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:13 am
by The Venerable Bogatir X
seeahill wrote:If the Venerable B deigns to speak with me, I will relay that info here.
I am always happy to talk one on one. However, I have literally posted thousands of words about dog training and practical obedience on this site and have zero desire to rewrite it.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:17 pm
by Pinky
seeahill wrote:Most dogs are Muslim.
I was worried about this with our new dog, but she's always chosen bacon over hummus when given a choice. I think we're safe.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:12 pm
by Protobuilder
TerryB wrote:Have you considered getting rid of filthy pets?

Once you're past adolescence, there is no need to bond with an animal.
This.

It's freaking odd.

You bring a filthy animal into your home and then act shocked when they occasionally act out of pure instinct.

I can understand bunnies being cute and goats interesting for a few moments but dogs are the absolute worst.

Hearing a person say they own a dog is like hearing a person say they like Hillary Clinton or RUSH - no matter what else you do in your life, I forever question your judgement.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:32 pm
by seeahill
A dog teaches us unconditional love, loyalty, and to always turn around three times before taking a dump.

Re: Smart dog guys (you know who you are) fix my problem

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:12 pm
by The Venerable Bogatir X
seeahill wrote:A dog teaches us unconditional love, loyalty, and to always turn around three times before taking a dump.
See, there is a little bit of anthropomorphic horse puckey that we all need to understand: dogs completely live in the moment. Don't think for a heartbeat, they think about you when they are in a new home.

Did you call me or do you need me to resend my digits?

Jim