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Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:50 am
by johno
...both exposed national secrets to foreign powers. And Obama commutes Chelsea's sentence, but no pardon for Hillary. Yet.

Libs - explain the commute rationale.

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Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:39 am
by DrDonkeyLove
johno wrote:...both exposed national secrets to foreign powers. And Obama commutes Chelsea's sentence, but no pardon for Hillary. Yet.

Libs - explain the commute rationale.

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Future dating plans after Friday?

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:49 am
by Testiclaw
Hmmmm...I guess a Marry/Fuck/Kill could be used here.

Hillary. Chelsea. Bradley.

Who you got?

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:19 am
by Turdacious
I'm surprised at the support this other just commuted terrorist received: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/politics/ ... ez-rivera/

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:36 am
by bennyonesix
That is completely inexplicable under any political ideology other than hatred of the US.

Still not worse than Bill's last few days. But we have time.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:21 am
by bennyonesix
I reckon Native Americans don't have enough votes to matter because Peltier is less worse than the fgts that just got pardoned.

http://m.democracynow.org/web_exclusives/3124

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:13 pm
by nafod
New sentencing guideline..."7 years solitary plus a sex change"

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:42 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Obama explained the rationale on Manning. What's the counterargument? Genuinely curious.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:27 pm
by Herv100
Turdacious wrote:I'm surprised at the support this other just commuted terrorist received: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/politics/ ... ez-rivera/
This was ridiculous. Of course no coverage of this by msm

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:55 pm
by dead man walking
does the new york times count as main stream?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/o ... ivera.html

or the washington post?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 3da840052a

herv, donald just tweeted that your post is fake news

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:04 pm
by johno
Grandpa's Spells wrote:What's the counterargument? Genuinely curious.
I asked first, you lazy fuck.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:33 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
johno wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:What's the counterargument? Genuinely curious.
I asked first, you lazy fuck.
Obama explained it at some length yesterday. http://time.com/4638194/president-obama ... onference/

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:57 pm
by DrDonkeyLove
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Obama explained the rationale on Manning. What's the counterargument? Genuinely curious.
Am not overly vexed by this.

Instead of why not pardon "her", my question is why should he/she be pardoned? My answer is that he's pandering to the LGBTQIA-IGx crowd because Obama is a pandering MoFo.

Are Manning's disclosures more or less damaging to the USA than Jonathan Pollard's? I don't know the answer but truly wonder.

Too bad he didn't pardon Nakoula Basseley Nakoula who made the "Innocence of Muslims video", the only poor bastard to bear any responsibility for the Benghazi atrocity.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:09 pm
by bennyonesix
dead man walking wrote:does the new york times count as main stream?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/o ... ivera.html

or the washington post?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 3da840052a

herv, donald just tweeted that your post is fake news
Tendentious. You know his point was an almost complete lack of coverage AND media AND poltical class outrage. This is just rank dishonesty on your part. As you well know, if a Rightist (a militiaman or anti abortion activist etc) received this, the coverage would be wall to wall.

The larger point is that shitlib politicians and shitlibs and shitlib media to not attack the Left no matter how radical or murderous.

In fact, as we have seen, they support them via their silence on issues like this.

So please address the real issue or stfu.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:14 pm
by nafod
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Obama explained the rationale on Manning. What's the counterargument? Genuinely curious.
Am not overly vexed by this.

Instead of why not pardon "her", my question is why should he/she be pardoned? My answer is that he's pandering to the LGBTQIA-IGx crowd because Obama is a pandering MoFo.

Are Manning's disclosures more or less damaging to the USA than Jonathan Pollard's?
I'm not a fan of Manning, but on it's behalf, he didn't do it for money or a foreign power, saw it as a whistleblower act for us merkins, and she admitted full guilt.

Jonathan Pollard sold his secrets for gain to a foreign power (having shopped them around to a bunch) while keeping it all a secret. Not knowing what has been stolen is a huge deal. We often cut deals with the perp in order to get them to cooperate on telling us what they told them.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:17 pm
by Turdacious
nafod wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Obama explained the rationale on Manning. What's the counterargument? Genuinely curious.
Am not overly vexed by this.

Instead of why not pardon "her", my question is why should he/she be pardoned? My answer is that he's pandering to the LGBTQIA-IGx crowd because Obama is a pandering MoFo.

Are Manning's disclosures more or less damaging to the USA than Jonathan Pollard's?
I'm not a fan of Manning, but on it's behalf, he didn't do it for money or a foreign power, saw it as a whistleblower act for us merkins, and she admitted full guilt.

Jonathan Pollard sold his secrets for gain to a foreign power (having shopped them around to a bunch) while keeping it all a secret. Not knowing what has been stolen is a huge deal. We often cut deals with the perp in order to get them to cooperate on telling us what they told them.
I wonder what impact the difficulty of protecting a high profile prisoner in Oz while providing a type of medical care the military isn't used to providing had. I'd imagine the MPs are happy to be rid of Manning.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:27 pm
by Herv100
dead man walking wrote:does the new york times count as main stream?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/o ... ivera.html

or the washington post?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 3da840052a

herv, donald just tweeted that your post is fake news
I go by Facebook, shitdick. Nothing from CNN, NBC, Fox, etc that I saw. What's funny is, the only places I saw it were so-called "fake news" sites.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:33 pm
by Herv100
bennyonesix wrote:
dead man walking wrote:does the new york times count as main stream?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/o ... ivera.html

or the washington post?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 3da840052a

herv, donald just tweeted that your post is fake news
Tendentious. You know his point was an almost complete lack of coverage AND media AND poltical class outrage. This is just rank dishonesty on your part. As you well know, if a Rightist (a militiaman or anti abortion activist etc) received this, the coverage would be wall to wall.

The larger point is that shitlib politicians and shitlibs and shitlib media to not attack the Left no matter how radical or murderous.

In fact, as we have seen, they support them via their silence on issues like this.

So please address the real issue or stfu.
You know he had to go looking for those with Google and they weren't popping up on any news feeds. In other words, you had to already know about the story to go find it with Google.

Re: Hillary & Chelsea...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:37 pm
by dead man walking