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Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:18 am
by Grandpa's Spells
Allegedly co-signed... by Russian oligarchs. If true, it’s starting to get a little silly.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:08 am
by seeahill
Oh sure, and I suppose these oligarchs are close to Putin and that's why our President has this inexplicable affection the man. Fake News! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:31 am
by Turdacious
Grandpa's Spells wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:18 am Allegedly co-signed... by Russian oligarchs. If true, it’s starting to get a little silly.
How so? If it was a deal where the Russians pledged their capital and he only put up his 'expertise' on a deal that didn't work out-- they lost money and he's ok. If they both made money-- it's a good deal for both sides. Am I missing something?

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:54 am
by seeahill
Yes. No bank was lending to DT. Too many bankruptcies. But Deutche did. Why? One unconfirmed report is that loan apps the bank may now nave to turn over will show that oligarchs close to Putin cosigned those loans. Note that this is a single unconfirmed report.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:55 am
by nafod
-- they lost money and he's ok
It’s never good to be in a deal with Russian oligarchs where they lose money

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:23 pm
by Turdacious
nafod wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:55 am
-- they lost money and he's ok
It’s never good to be in a deal with Russian oligarchs where they lose money
Which gives them a nice writeoff-- not a horrible downside.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:29 pm
by Turdacious
seeahill wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:54 am Yes. No bank was lending to DT. Too many bankruptcies. But Deutche did. Why? One unconfirmed report is that loan apps the bank may now nave to turn over will show that oligarchs close to Putin cosigned those loans. Note that this is a single unconfirmed report.
Which has already been looked at by Treasury for possible money laundering by the Russians, and Mueller for political influence peddling. Neither side found offenses worthy of prosecuting.

Isn't this starting to seem a little like the 90's? Remember when Ken Starr was investigating every Arkansas homicide desperately hoping to find Hillary's fingerprints on the murder weapon?

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:45 pm
by Fat Cat
Holding my breath and waiting for any kind of evidence whatsoever other than the lowing of the lesbian kommissars of MSNBC.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:21 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
It'll be interesting. Trump's attorneys are demanding a retraction, suggesting they don't view the accusation as very legal and very cool.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:29 pm
by Fat Cat
Well if there's evidence, I and probably a lot of other people, would like to see it. But hurling accusations isn't journalism and I couldn't help but note that NYT, WaPo, BBC, etc. haven't touched this story.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:36 pm
by Kazuya Mishima
Let me guess...it's all over Yahoo News (the most appropriately named thing on the internet).

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:18 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Ruh oh

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:37 pm
by Kazuya Mishima
Not the first time this socialist asshole has stepped on his own dick.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:57 pm
by Fat Cat
Last night I made an error in judgment by reporting an item about the president’s finances that didn’t go through our rigorous verification and standards process. I shouldn’t have reported it and I was wrong to discuss it on the air. I will address the issue on my show tonight.

-Lawrence O'Donnell, American television pundit, actor, and host of The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:57 pm
by nafod
He should pull a Trump and double down on the bullshit. NEVER ADMIT YOUR LIE. Say you've got good people working on it, and what they are finding is incredible. Good people. Great people. You won't believe what they are finding.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:58 pm
by Fat Cat
You guys really need to stop watching MSNBC. It's Pravda. All major news outlets should be viewed with extreme caution. We are in the post-journalistic phase of public life, where what presents itself as "news" is propaganda and information warfare. That is true of all sides at all times.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:59 pm
by Fat Cat
nafod wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:57 pm He should pull a Trump and double down on the bullshit. NEVER ADMIT YOUR LIE. Say you've got good people working on it, and what they are finding is incredible. Good people. Great people. You won't believe what they are finding.
He did, fren. He never said he was wrong. He never said he made something up. He never said he lied.

This is the only reason he even issued a retraction: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ocument/p1

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:42 am
by powerlifter54
2020 is going to be really tough on some of you.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:52 am
by Turdacious
MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell issued an on-air clarification Tuesday after making shocking claims about President Donald Trump's ties to Russian oligarchs that had not been vetted by NBC News.

In response to a Democrat-controlled House committee subpoena, Deutsche Bank revealed Tuesday that it was in possession of tax returns "related to" Trump or his immediate family. While the partially redacted filings did not specify whose tax returns the bank possessed, O'Donnell opened The Last Word by claiming they were President Trump's, based on "what one source close to Deutsche Bank has revealed to me."[...]

MSNBC booking producer Michael Del Moro tweeted the following morning that not only has O'Donnell never seen the relevant documents, neither has his source.
https://freebeacon.com/politics/nbc-new ... ia-report/
Hard to be both dumb and dumber, but O'Donnell pulled it off perfectly.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:24 pm
by nafod
MSNBC booking producer Michael Del Moro tweeted the following morning that not only has O'Donnell never seen the relevant documents, neither has his source.
Positively Trumpian in its magnificence.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:06 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
powerlifter54 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:42 am 2020 is going to be really tough on some of you.
Trump: Lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie
FOX: Lie lie lie lie lie lie
MSNBC: Correction issued

Oh boy Dems are in trouble for 2020.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:24 pm
by Fat Cat
This reminds me of the time when you posted how school kids were ganging up on an old Indian man.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:30 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
And who can forget the knockout game.

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:40 pm
by nafod
Spells, you don't understand WHAT IS AT STAKE HERE
If Donald Trump isn’t re-elected in 2020, says Bakker, Christians will be murdered.

“I’m going to say something I probably shouldn’t say,” he added. “What’s coming next, if we keep losing, you’re going to see the leaders of the church and the leaders of the gospel and the political conservative leaders that are powerful, you are going to see them suddenly die, suddenly killed — suddenly as they were driving, suddenly as they were in a boat, suddenly in an airplane — you’re going to see it one after another.”

Re: Trump Deutsche Bank Loans

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:20 pm
by Turdacious
nafod wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:40 pm Spells, you don't understand WHAT IS AT STAKE HERE
If Donald Trump isn’t re-elected in 2020, says Bakker, Christians will be murdered.

“I’m going to say something I probably shouldn’t say,” he added. “What’s coming next, if we keep losing, you’re going to see the leaders of the church and the leaders of the gospel and the political conservative leaders that are powerful, you are going to see them suddenly die, suddenly killed — suddenly as they were driving, suddenly as they were in a boat, suddenly in an airplane — you’re going to see it one after another.”
Jim Bakker's a Trump guy? I'd a never guessed.