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Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:02 pm
by Shapecharge
Interesting read in the Atlantic about more Russian cyber shenanigans. Worth a read.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... on/602836/

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:34 pm
by Bennyonesix1
Lol fuck gchq. British Intel has been a plague on the world since WWII. And yeah, their entrance exam is very difficult but who cares?

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:41 pm
by Shapecharge
Benny you seem a little wound up. Remember when you used to ask me to send you nude pictures of myself? I think I need to do that again...you know, help you relax. Hold on...check you pm in about 5 minutes. Just fyi I'm a little older now and the passage of time has not been particularly kind to me "down there".

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:58 am
by Bennyonesix1
You're Bruv?

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:14 am
by Sangoma
Skripal case doesn't make sense. Yet they mention it as closed case.

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:04 pm
by nafod
Why doesn’t it make sense?

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:17 am
by Bennyonesix1
OPCW was in charge of the testing lmao

And of course Batchelor lol has this fascinating interview

https://spectator.org/big-dots-do-they- ... revisited/

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:03 am
by vern

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:26 am
by Bennyonesix1

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:05 am
by Gene
Sangoma wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:14 am Skripal case doesn't make sense. Yet they mention it as closed case.
Why would the Russians use a toxin that aims right at them? "Novichok" was produced in Russia in the 1990s.

The Skripals were nobodies. He was traded off to the British in 2010. Apparently he wasn't important enough to hang on to him. Skripal was arrested in 2004. Most anything he knows would be stale by 2018, when he was allegedly poisoned with Novichok.

A crime requires means, motive and character.

How would it benefit Russia to attempt to bump him off in such an obvious fashion? Terrorize who? The folks back home? They can be handled in a more direct manner. Terrorize defectors? For what purpose?

Why would the British attempt to bump him off?

He got dosed. Cause unknown.

Could be a faction in the SVR/MGB. One bumped him off, to put pressure on Putin's government for domestic reasons. Could be a faction in British Intelligence, to justify operations in Ukraine. Need to know covers a lot of sins.

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:17 am
by Sangoma
nafod wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:04 pm Why doesn’t it make sense?
Well, it's been covered many times in many places. Starting with the motive and ending with the means and the way it was allegedly done. Why do you need to kill an ex spy who was convicted and exchanged? Why do you choose such elaborate means to do that? Military grade poison capable of killing the whole of the city. And if you do want to do that, do you reckon there is an intelligence agency in the world that cannot do it in the way not traceable to the country of origin?

There is a good article discussing both sides of the story:

The Skripal Case: A Depolticised Analysis

As is the case with all false flags evidence to the contrary is ignored. The reason for Vietnam War is still "the threat of communism", and the Gulf of Tonkin incident is largely forgotten. The story of the Russian doping, even though completely debunked by the reputable law firm, is still alive. So is the Scribal case: it is at the very least controversial, but is referred to as the clear and solved.

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:58 am
by nafod
Why do you need to kill an ex spy who was convicted and exchanged? Why do you choose such elaborate means to do that? Military grade poison capable of killing the whole of the city.
To send a message to anyone else thinking of jumping ship. Duh.

Why do you think Trump goes after the Intel whistleblower, when all of the beans have been fully spilled and corroborated? It's for the next guy

Re: Britain's secret cyber throwdown with Russia

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:01 am
by Sangoma
That's obvious reason. Perfect for the false flag operation. They could have killed him during his eight year prison stay in Russia. Easier and not likely to get a mention in the Western media.

Plenty of other holes. Anyway, the truth is unlikely to surface.