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So imagine a world with super heroes but they're celebrities that also belong to a corporation that hires our their services...and not all of them are benevolent and kind. Eight episodes. Don't any of you super-critics shit on this like you tried to do and failed on my other review. Shape gives this series a very firm but loving two thumbs in with a pipe cleaner dipped in jalapeno juice down the pee hole for the smartasses that just couldn't get Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

This was a fun show. It helps to manage expectations, like with early HBO/Showtime series before they were crushing it.

Stephen you don't have to use the pipe cleaner.

You're going to need some imperfect allies on this one.

It looks violent.

It is extremely so Mak. And the Superman-like guy called "The Homelander" is an obsequious, deviant, sinister, creepy guy of the nth degree. Just think about it...what if Superman decided he wasn't about truth, justice, and the American-way and he was in it all for himself? Yeah, everybody figured out the kryptonite angle but in this series this guy has no known weakness.

How is it something fundamentally different from Watchmen or some of the other meta-hero works that have come before it?

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:05 pm How is it something fundamentally different from Watchmen or some of the other meta-hero works that have come before it?

The main difference is that Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, Frank Miller and Grant Morrison truly love the superhero genre and, after they deconstructed it, they created some beautiful stories.

Meanwhile, Garth Ennis hates superheroes in any form. There is no deconstruction, no hidden homage, just bile, hatred and despise. And he is not shy about his feelings; there are many interviews where he explicitly shows his contempt.

That gets old pretty soon. Because the guy made a career out of that thing he despises, but he keeps telling the same hate-stories over and over.

The Amazon show is kind of okay (the comic book it's based on is shit). It reminds me of the magnificent Marshall Law, by Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill and that's high praise.

Damned by faint praise.

I appreciate DewClaw's fascinating breakdown based on his six week film history course at Pigknuckle State. No one gives two shits about the writer's motivation. The fucking series is more than "okay". The comment about The Watchmen was a good one but DewClaw needs to use the pipecleaner.

I'm afraid a retread of comic book tropes fueled by spite and violence isn't going to make my list.

Shapecharge wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:25 pm I appreciate DewClaw's fascinating breakdown based on his six week film history course at Pigknuckle State. No one gives two shits about the writer's motivation. The fucking series is more than "okay". The comment about The Watchmen was a good one but DewClaw needs to use the pipecleaner.

I'm not gonna go camping with you.

Ennis' distaste for typical superhero tropes is well known.

Ergo him doing The Preacher and The Boys, and also Crossed.

IMO The Boy's is a realistic extrapolation of how the whole super hero thing would pan out, corruption, perversion, etc

Shafpocalypse Now wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:23 pm Ennis' distaste for typical superhero tropes is well known.

Ergo him doing The Preacher and The Boys, and also Crossed.

IMO The Boy's is a realistic extrapolation of how the whole super hero thing would pan out, corruption, perversion, etc

You should give Marshall Law a try. It's brilliant and clever.

Shafpocalypse Now wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:23 pm Ennis' distaste for typical superhero tropes is well known.

Ergo him doing The Preacher and The Boys, and also Crossed.

IMO The Boy's is a realistic extrapolation of how the whole super hero thing would pan out, corruption, perversion, etc

Crossed? It was much too violent for me.

I love this show.

Crossed's gore kinda turned me off at first. but the initial online comic was just a master class in characters you hope will die