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WTF?

Liz Cheney is swinging a pair. I hope she nut punches McCarthy going out the door.
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nafod wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:46 am WTF?

Liz Cheney is swinging a pair. I hope she nut punches McCarthy going out the door.
Lots of piss contests going on, Nafod.

“They want to burn,” Mayor Ted Wheeler said. “They want to bash, like they did to the nonprofit Boys and Girls Club in Northeast. Really they want to intimidate. They want to assault.

“If BLM leaders can show the courage to stand up to this mob, then we all should. ... Make a stand and take our city back,” he said.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/0 ... ators.html

The "idea" talked back.

“Blood is already on your hands, Ted,” says the video’s masked and voice-altered narrator, who appears outside a MAX station and claims to be a member of Portland’s anarchist and anti-fascist community. “The next time, it may just be your own.”

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2021/04 ... ators.html

The ACLU is backing these kids up. Quoted in the second article. More piss contesting.

Where was Wheeler last summer while these people were trashing his city? He coddled these people. So did the Democrats. VP Giggles and Hollywood posted a bail fund. (see https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/man-twice ... ted-again/ )

When Trump sent in Federal agents Wheeler complained.

"“Over the past week, President Trump has used our city as a staging ground to further his political agenda, igniting his base to cause further divisiveness,” Wheeler said during a Friday afternoon press conference. “Mr. President, federal agencies should never be used as your own personal army.”" See https://www.opb.org/news/article/ted-wh ... ald-trump/



Now the "revolution" is fixing to eat its own. Question who is going to eat and who is getting eaten?
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nafod wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:46 am WTF?

Liz Cheney is swinging a pair. I hope she nut punches McCarthy going out the door.
Senator Joe McCarthy was right and history has proven it so. Venona decryptions of Soviet espionage data now opened to the West, and newly released transcripts of closed hearings before McCarthy's subcommittee—has vindicated McCarthy by showing that his identifications of Communists were correct and the scale of Soviet espionage activities in the United States during the 1940s and 1950s was far more vast than was previously known.

See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project
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Gene wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:04 am
nafod wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:46 am WTF?

Liz Cheney is swinging a pair. I hope she nut punches McCarthy going out the door.
Lots of piss contests going on, Nafod.
This one involves the loser trying to overturn the last election with The Big Lie.

Props to Liz for not bending the knee to the cult leader.
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nafod wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gene wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:04 am
nafod wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:46 am WTF?

Liz Cheney is swinging a pair. I hope she nut punches McCarthy going out the door.
Lots of piss contests going on, Nafod.
This one involves the loser trying to overturn the last election with The Big Lie.

Props to Liz for not bending the knee to the cult leader.
You don't have any idea whether there was fraud in the election or not. You have sources you are willing to trust, but that's all.
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Fat Cat wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 12:31 am
nafod wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Gene wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:04 am
nafod wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 3:46 am WTF?

Liz Cheney is swinging a pair. I hope she nut punches McCarthy going out the door.
Lots of piss contests going on, Nafod.
This one involves the loser trying to overturn the last election with The Big Lie.

Props to Liz for not bending the knee to the cult leader.
You don't have any idea whether there was fraud in the election or not. You have sources you are willing to trust, but that's all.
I trust the Trump admin folks tasked with ensuring election security who all stated it was secure, and I trust the judges of the 60 court cases, most of them repubs, who said fraud arguments were bullshit.
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In other words you trust the sources that confirm your bias.
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Fat Cat wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 3:26 am In other words you trust the sources that confirm your bias.
Let's see what Trump's lawyer/bullshit artist Powell's position is on this, in her defense against Dominion...

"Indeed, Plaintiffs themselves characterize the statements at issue as 'wild accusations' and 'outlandish claims.' They are repeatedly labelled 'inherently improbable' and even 'impossible.' Such characterizations of the allegedly defamatory statements further support Defendants' position that reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact..."

This is Trump's lawyer saying it is all bullshit.

His lawyer

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nafod wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 pm Props to Liz for not bending the knee to the cult leader.
You are most of the time a pretty doctrinaire progressive. I would think you that you would want more Democratic party Senators.

This is how you get it. Why would you even say a word about Liz?
nafod wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 pm I trust the judges of the 60 court cases, most of them repubs, who said fraud arguments were bullshit.
Sometimes the courts are wrong. Dred Scott vs Sandford, Koramatsu vs US, Wickard vs Filburn.

Dred Scott said that slaves can be returned to their "rightful owners". The court admitted that it was politics, they didn't want to "damage the Union".

Koramatsu said that EO 9066 violated his due process rights. The Court said that EO 9066 is sufficient. 100,000 native born Americans were kept in concentration camps because they were "Japanese". Some of their sons served in Europe with the US military but Mom and Dad could stay in the camp.

Wickard vs Filburn said that the Interstate Commerce Clause is so broad that Congress can do whatever it pleases under the restrictions of the Interstate Commerce clause. They turned the entire point of the ICC on its head.

The Court has since said that Civil Forfeiture (one of Biden's dumber ideas) does not violate the 5th amendment.

I bet you complain about Citizens United, Nafod. How do you feel about these other idiotic decisions?
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Gene wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 2:09 pm
nafod wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 pm Props to Liz for not bending the knee to the cult leader.
You are most of the time a pretty doctrinaire progressive. I would think you that you would want more Democratic party Senators.

This is how you get it. Why would you even say a word about Liz?
nafod wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 pm I trust the judges of the 60 court cases, most of them repubs, who said fraud arguments were bullshit.
Sometimes the courts are wrong.
60 court cases

Different states, different judges from different political parties

All agree it was all bullshit

60-0, Gene

And Trump's lawyer is now arguing it was all bullshit in court.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 3:02 pm +GOP partisans responsible for running state elections
You don't mean, like, the republican legislators in PA that certified the state results, do you?

Or the Secretary of State in Georgia, a republican if I recall correctly?
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Grandpa's Spells wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 3:02 pm +Global nonpartisan media.
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Basically, anyone who has been asked while under oath or is at other legal risk has said it is bullshit. Including the ones who said it wasn't bullshit when they weren't under any legal obligation to be honest.
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nafod wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 5:49 pm Basically, anyone who has been asked while under oath or is at other legal risk has said it is bullshit. Including the ones who said it wasn't bullshit when they weren't under any legal obligation to be honest.
Guess then that we don't need the "For the People Act", do we? The Courts have ruled it so?

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nafod wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 2:44 pm 60 court cases

Different states, different judges from different political parties

All agree it was all bullshit

60-0, Gene

And Trump's lawyer is now arguing it was all bullshit in court.
People have been claiming voter fraud for years, Nafod. Especially in Philadelphia. Nothing new.

JFK won a rigged election in 1960. The Cook County figures looked shady. Sam Giancana bragged about it later on. ( https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html )

LBJ was called "Landslide Lyndon" because of vote rigging in 1948. Trump was a toddler in 1948. https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/h ... -lost.html

The truth will out. If Trump was talking smack, that will come out. If Big Tech stole the White House for Biden so that they get more H-1B visa workers that will also come out.


Progressive Democrats are trying to add two States that are predominately Democrat to the Union. The "For the people" federalization of State voting requirements was passed on Party Lines in the House. Sounds like someone else doesn't trust the voting process either.

The ACLU didn't like HR 1, Nafod. They opposed it in 2019 and did not support it in 2020. ( https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... heres-why/ )

This is bigger than Trump.
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Gene wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:15 pm
nafod wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 2:44 pm 60 court cases

Different states, different judges from different political parties

All agree it was all bullshit

60-0, Gene

And Trump's lawyer is now arguing it was all bullshit in court.
People have been claiming voter fraud for years, Nafod. Especially in Philadelphia. Nothing new.

JFK won a rigged election in 1960. The Cook County figures looked shady. Sam Giancana bragged about it later on. ( https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html )

LBJ was called "Landslide Lyndon" because of vote rigging in 1948. Trump was a toddler in 1948. https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/h ... -lost.html

The truth will out. If Trump was talking smack, that will come out.
In your examples above, the losers accepted the loss. They didn't send rioters to interfere with the certification process.

If you look at Trump's technique over the years, he never wants to find the truth, he just wants to announce an investigation. Cast doubt. When he loses, he casts doubt on the sanctity of the process. The judge was hispanic. The count was wrong. Etc. That's fine, it is how he rolls. It's the rest of the Repub's unwillingness to tell him to STFU and take your loss like a man that is disappointing.
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nafod wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 2:35 pm
In your examples above, the losers accepted the loss. They didn't send rioters to interfere with the certification process.

If you look at Trump's technique over the years, he never wants to find the truth, he just wants to announce an investigation. Cast doubt. When he loses, he casts doubt on the sanctity of the process. The judge was hispanic. The count was wrong. Etc. That's fine, it is how he rolls. It's the rest of the Repub's unwillingness to tell him to STFU and take your loss like a man that is disappointing.
Trump is a private citizen, Nafod. He's a nobody today. .

Yes, there was a riot at the Capital. People broke Capital police regulations. Only one person died, a protestor was shot in the neck. No guns were taken from the protesters.

This talk of a "Coup d'Etat" is nonsense. No chain of command, no weapons. Lots of stupid behavior.


This photo is from the 1983 bombing outside of the Senate chamber. Courtesy of the May 19th Communist Order. Former Weathermen.

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The Weathermen set off a bomb in the US capital in 1971. They bombed the Pentagon.

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-case ... d-bombings

Puerto Rican nationalists shot five Congressional representatives in 1954. No NRA at work then, the outfit didn't get radical until 1977.

https://history.house.gov/Oral-History/ ... -Shooting/



This "riot" or 'insurrection' on Jan 6 2021 is being handled. If local authorities want to indict Trump? They can do it. Still isn't as bad as the Weathermen. How many Weathermen are in BLM and Antifa today?
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nafod wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 2:35 pmIt's the rest of the Repub's unwillingness to tell him to STFU and take your loss like a man that is disappointing.
The Republicans got bigger problems, like loss of Corporate sponsorship.

Biden is selling out. On his first day cancelling the KX pipeline. Biden pandered to Warren Buffett and his BNSF railroad, railroads run on petroleum, pipelines can run on wind and solar.

"No other railroad has more experience or expertise than us in helping you move crude oil to our nation’s refineries. Our rail network allows you to move crude or liquefied petroleum gas north, south, east or west safely and securely."

https://www.bnsf.com/ship-with-bnsf/ene ... d-lpg.html

Berkshire Hathaway owns majority stake in BNSF. Warren is a big investor in BH. Partnerships between Government and Industry.

Gov Gretchen Whitmer wants to shut down Enbridge Line 5 in Michigan. Enbridge wants to build a tunnel to protect the river. Nope.

Gov Whitmer wants Propane shipped to the north.... by rail. Wonder whose railroad is going to replace Enbridge Line 5? Any guesses?

She's putting up Michigan Money for "rail infrastructure" to support Propane. Warren doesn't have to pay for terminals.

"The plan calls for millions of dollars of investment in rail infrastructure and storage to help wean propane suppliers off the pipeline, plus other programs to reduce propane demand, help low-income customers pay their propane bills, and increase the state’s ability to monitor propane supplies."

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-envir ... 5-shutdown

There is no 'weaning' going on here. Promise the dullards "green energy" while promoting a Democratic Donor's business.


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Gene wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:28 am
nafod wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 2:35 pm
In your examples above, the losers accepted the loss. They didn't send rioters to interfere with the certification process.

If you look at Trump's technique over the years, he never wants to find the truth, he just wants to announce an investigation. Cast doubt. When he loses, he casts doubt on the sanctity of the process. The judge was hispanic. The count was wrong. Etc. That's fine, it is how he rolls. It's the rest of the Repub's unwillingness to tell him to STFU and take your loss like a man that is disappointing.
Trump is a private citizen, Nafod. He's a nobody today.
I wish you were right, but the Repub Party is currently the Trump Cult.
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