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Nice episode of Rogan's podcast, with Chris Kresser and Joel Kahn. The latter is pro-vegetarian/vegan, while Kresser defends eating meat. I am not a great fan of Kresser, but agree with many things he was saying: there is no evidence for meat doing bad things for your health, saturated fat is not a problem. Worthwhile discussion to listen to, though Kahn comes across as a sleazeball and a wanker.