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Grandpa's Spells wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:10 pm Saddam levels of populace subjugation are less affected by economic pressure. In other places it has.

Mass civilian murder around a European capitol is a BFD and the rest of the world should be doing anything short of military action to put a stop to it. Fuck student visas.
Saddam gassed Kurds and massacred over 100,000 Shias.

I gotcha - Arabs are not white, Ukrainians are white. Never figured you for a white supremacist, Gramps.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:10 pm Saddam levels of populace subjugation are less affected by economic pressure. In other places it has.

Mass civilian murder around a European capitol is a BFD and the rest of the world should be doing anything short of military action to put a stop to it. Fuck student visas.
Saddam gassed Kurds and massacred over 100,000 Shias.

I gotcha - Arabs are not white, Ukrainians are white. Never figured you for a white supremacist, Gramps.
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Nah dude. Russians are bad whites and it's a safe target for his cowardly sadism to manifest and preserve and increase his status in the System.

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Gene wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:06 pm
Grandpa's Spells wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:10 pm Saddam levels of populace subjugation are less affected by economic pressure. In other places it has.

Mass civilian murder around a European capitol is a BFD and the rest of the world should be doing anything short of military action to put a stop to it. Fuck student visas.
Saddam gassed Kurds and massacred over 100,000 Shias.
How’d that work out for him?

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Sanctions - not working. Only hurting the Russian people, not the leaders

Propaganda - is in full swing. I cannot believe the people who believe NATO troops and no fly zones are a good idea.

The Nazis: Card carrying, proud descendants of the SS here, not ignorant, 6th grade graduates in wife beaters. These guys are full on still talking about the final solution. Actually train. Are integrated into Ukraine's military

Chechyan and other islamic extremists are flocking to fight for Ukraine.

How many of the weapons pouring into Ukraine from the US are pouring right out? MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH. Yeah, the US gov is using taxpayer money to enrich arms companies and sending them into the sieve that is Ukraine. Coming soon, a terrorist is going to kill some US citizens with weapons they paid for. WIN WIN in their case.

ONE MILLION DEAD UKRAINIAN BABIES ARE NOT WORTH A NUCLEAR EXCHANGE

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In fact the sanctions might be the start of the death of the petrodollar


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Shaf, if you haven't read Hedges, he's very good. He's a anti-neolib leftish economist. But the mild leftism doesn't seem to harm his diagnoses.

Tl;dr

US has ceded reserve currency status already. And is forcing "allies" to become even more dependent on USD.

https://thesaker.is/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/


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nafod wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:03 pm
Gene wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:06 pm Saddam gassed Kurds and massacred over 100,000 Shias.
How’d that work out for him?

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Gene wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:59 pm
nafod wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:03 pm
Gene wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:06 pm Saddam gassed Kurds and massacred over 100,000 Shias.
How’d that work out for him?

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nafod wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:15 pm
Gene wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:59 pm
nafod wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:03 pm
Gene wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:06 pm Saddam gassed Kurds and massacred over 100,000 Shias.
How’d that work out for him?

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This was during the Tet Offensive. The guy on the right was part of a fifty percent loss in NLF forces. The guy on the left won the battle.

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They haven’t announced how many went down with the ship. I bet it is a lot.
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British Mercenary fighting on behalf of Kiev. Captured by Russian/DPR forces.

Part of his interrogation. He answers in English through a translator. He claims that he did no fighting and did not see anyone killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ZgohEnAa4
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So far, Putin’s Special Military Operation has been a mind-blowingly bad failure. Not a single goal achieved, kicked out of western Ukraine, probably 20,000 dead Russian military, his flagship named after the capital of Russia sitting on the bottom of the Black Sea, Sweden and Finland to join NATO. World-class weapons pouring into the hands of probably the world’s best fighters at the moment.

Good time for Japan to get uppity about the Kuril Islands way over there in the Far East, while Russia is getting its rear end kicked by Ukraine.
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It seems like every week another Ukraine invading Russian general is killed.
Zero reports on dead Ukrainian generals.
WTF??
Makes me wonder if Vlad is trimming the trees.

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DrDonkeyLove... wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:44 pm It seems like every week another Ukraine invading Russian general is killed.
Zero reports on dead Ukrainian generals.
WTF??
Makes me wonder if Vlad is trimming the trees.
It seems like all the Western military analysis of the Russian military is they are terrible. 20 years of being politically reliable to Vlad isn't a good strategy.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:38 pm
DrDonkeyLove... wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:44 pm It seems like every week another Ukraine invading Russian general is killed.
Zero reports on dead Ukrainian generals.
WTF??
Makes me wonder if Vlad is trimming the trees.
It seems like all the Western military analysis of the Russian military is they are terrible. 20 years of being politically reliable to Vlad isn't a good strategy.
They still have mass on their side, and don’t seem to care about loss of life.

Hopefully we are giving them the long range weapons they need to decimate the Russians in the East. I bet we are giving them the intel.
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nafod wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm So far, Putin’s Special Military Operation has been a mind-blowingly bad failure. Not a single goal achieved, kicked out of western Ukraine, probably 20,000 dead Russian military, his flagship named after the capital of Russia sitting on the bottom of the Black Sea,
Ukrainian Naval Infantry issues appeal online. Except for the Azovstal, Mariupol is lost to Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wV8rqURGx0

I heard from one Russian that Putin is not sparing casualties. He wants to spare Ukraine civilian deaths.

The Moskva was an older ship. The Russians will learn from their mistakes. We did, didn't we?
nafod wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm Sweden and Finland to join NATO.
Neither one has asked to join NATO. Western Corporate Media is hinting at it.

The Swedes have been neutral for a long time. They were once like Neo-Cons... Poltava knocked that nonsense out of them.

The Finns want to be left alone. If NATO serves their purposes, fine. If not, they won't.
nafod wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm World-class weapons pouring into the hands of probably the world’s best fighters at the moment.
Plane full of weapons was shot down near Odessa. Getting the weapons into the air is easy, safely getting them to Ukraine, maybe not so easy.

https://www.defenceview.in/shooting-dow ... -stronger/
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nafod wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm Good time for Japan to get uppity about the Kuril Islands way over there in the Far East, while Russia is getting its rear end kicked by Ukraine.
The Japanese can't even get us Americans to leave Okinawa. Most of them want us gone.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_p ... d-1.662609

US Vietnam Vet serving in Ukraine. I post this to encourage Nafod to walk his Neo-Con talk.

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Gene wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:06 pm US Vietnam Vet serving in Ukraine. I post this to encourage Nafod to walk his Neo-Con talk.
Getting too old, but I did contribute $$$ to the cause.
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The West (meaning the US) needs a Marius. We're in the very same position Rome was in a generation after defeating Carthage. A worse position actually as the rot took hold faster and has worked more deeply. It's possible we get a Marius and then a Sulla and then a Julius Caesar and then an Augustus and the Empire is transformed and lives on... but.... we haven't had a military man equal to any of those since Smedley Butler (pbuh). Eisenhower himself was a shadow of Sulla. And we've had no one close to Augustus. Even assuming JFK was a Gracchi (he wasn't) our core demographic hasn't produced anything like the transcendent competence of the above Roman elite since WWI let alone WWII.

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I just saw that the Daily Mail and The Times reported that a US Navy intel aircraft (can't remember what it's called) was tracking the Russian flagship that went down and relayed movements and coordinates so the Ukrainians could fire on it.

That could be an interesting development, although I'm guessing nobody on either side was exactly pretending that the Ukrainians did this on their own. On the one hand, direct involvement from any NATO nation, let alone the US, could tempt Vlad to attempt to escalate and drag other nations in. On the other, he's lost a huge number of Russian regulars and is likely going to be reliant upon conscripts fairly soon. I think it'll be pretty tough to convince Russian mothers and fathers to stand by while their sons are conscripted to be sent off to Ukraine. The Battle of Stalingrad this isn't.

I'm fairly certain this ends up being an extremely bloody and economically catastrophic quagmire where the status quo is maintained in the East of Ukraine, while Ukraine maintains its incredible level of corruption, but with much better military hardware.
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Gene wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:06 pm just saw that the Daily Mail and The Times reported that a US Navy intel aircraft (can't remember what it's called) was tracking the Russian flagship that went down and relayed movements and coordinates so the Ukrainians could fire on it.
I’m sure that we have been providing them with all kinds of targeting information. If you watch FlightAware.com you can see the orbits of the recon aircraft. Ships, ground vehicles, convoys, emitters are all watched.
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I actually howled with laughter at this. Weird scary-eyebrow lady realizes what she is saying after 4 questions.


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Bennyonesix1 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:02 pm I actually howled with laughter at this. Weird scary-eyebrow lady realizes what she is saying after 4 questions.
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