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Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:49 pm
by buckethead
Last night was the second time I did this preparation of steaks. Again, every person could not believe how good they were (cheap sirloins at ~$6/lb).
the steak secret: massively salt your steaks 1 hour before cooking for every inch of thickness.
Notice that I didn’t say, “sprinkle liberally” or even “season generously.” I’m talking about literally coating your meat. It should resemble a salt lick.
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Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 pm
by The man in black
The salt drawing the moisture out is the reason I never salted until it was on the dinner plate. I will definately try it out though. The last time I took cooking advice from this forum I learned how to debone a chicken and it was awesome.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:02 pm
by Turdacious
Hey Bux-- you ever get into sous-vide?
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:12 pm
by buckethead
Turd, no. Once I started looking into the cost/time I lost interest
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:11 pm
by Hymen Asshole
Cheap sirloin $6 a lb? Just last year sirloin could be had for 1/2 that, food costs are going crazy.
I've been doing steaks this way for years and another thing to point out is to let the steaks sit out and get up to room temperature before grilling and then after grilling give them five minutes to rest.
I also do standing rib roasts this way, coated in kosher or sea salt and cooked on a bed of salt in the roasting pan, comes out really moist this way.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:37 pm
by tzg
I knew about salting liberally, never knew the rule of thumb. It's good to have a rule of thumb.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:45 pm
by Zombomatic
Jesus, that article just made me so hungry.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:16 am
by Batboy2/75
You want to really kick it up a notch?
salt and leave in the fridge for three days. Poor mans aged steak.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:07 am
by Kraj 2.0
You wanna take it up 3 notches? Marinate in ghost chili extract for a couple of days, then coat in crushed red pepper flakes and grill. In-tense.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:42 am
by Turdacious
tzg wrote:I knew about salting liberally, never knew the rule of thumb. It's good to have a rule of thumb.
The rule of thumb has been extensively discussed here.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:03 pm
by Hebrew Hammer
This is how meat is kashered, which is why kosher salt has its name (table salt is kosher as well).
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:26 pm
by Thatcher II
Can't wait to try this. Question - would doing this to fillet / chateaubriand be stupid / unwise or make them better too?
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:12 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Gorbachev wrote:Can't wait to try this. Question - would doing this to fillet / chateaubriand be stupid / unwise or make them better too?
You can. Tenderloin isn't a super-flavorful cut to begin with, compared to similarly priced cuts. It gets lots of points for texture and is usually sauced. So if you do this, you're risking compromising the texture by dehydrating it, without as much benefit as you'd get with steaks served without a sauce. I'd test it with an individual filet rather than get into doing a larger section of tenderloin.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:08 pm
by buckethead
Grandpa's Spells wrote:you're risking compromising the texture by dehydrating it
I think you're missing the scientificals of salting.
It's not the water that makes the steak flavorful...Flavor and juiciness comes from the breakdown of protein and fat
Salt does something funny to the protein cells ["relaxes" them]...when cooked, the relaxed, tangled proteins trap liquefied fat and meat juice
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:22 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
BucketHead wrote:Grandpa's Spells wrote:you're risking compromising the texture by dehydrating it
I think you're missing the scientificals of salting.
It's not the water that makes the steak flavorful...Flavor and juiciness comes from the breakdown of protein and fat
Pulling water out yields a dryer result than leaving it be or adding water via injection or brining. Fattier cuts of beef can handle this. Sirloin is fine since it's not particularly tender to begin with. With filet I'd experiment first.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:40 pm
by Stillwater
I do something similar when I grill porkchops. I use a rub that is 8 parts brown sugar 3 parts kosher salt and 2 parts chili powder. Apply liberally and let it soak in for 45 minutes to an hour on 1" chops before grilling.
I usually use Montreal seasoning on my steaks anyway, next time I'll use some extra salt and let them rest for a while.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:24 pm
by Turdacious
BucketHead wrote:
Salt does something funny to the protein cells ["relaxes" them]...when cooked, the relaxed, tangled proteins trap liquefied fat and meat juice
In the camping world, this is known as the 'Shape effect.'
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:57 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Turdacious wrote:BucketHead wrote:
Salt does something funny to the protein cells ["relaxes" them]...when cooked, the relaxed, tangled proteins trap liquefied fat and meat juice
In the camping world, this is known as the 'Shape effect.'

Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:32 am
by dogchild
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:54 am
by baffled
Did this with a few ribeyes for some family that is visiting from Hawaii and heading back this weekend. I'm actually pretty good on the grill and with the weather we've been having, I've been firing up the Weber pretty often, but this was easily the best meal of the week.
Thanks for the heads up on this Bux.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:59 am
by Thatcher II
baffled wrote:.....some family that is visiting from Hawaii...
My sympathies.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:16 am
by The Venerable Bogatir X
One of my favorite cuts is something a local butcher calls "Tenderlean," which is a cut from the Teres Major, also sold as 'mock tenderloin' elsewhere. This cut, if you're not aware of it, is amazing. It's got tons of beef flavor (unlike Fillet) and is almost as tender as a good beef tenderloin/fillet.
I bought two yesterday with the intent to try BB2/75 3 day salt ageing but my gut told me it's a bad idea for this cut and I was correct. I ended-up taking one of them and salting the fuck out of a small, glass baking pan with Kosher salt....about 3 ounces, I'd guess. I covered the meat on all sides with the salt and let it sit on the counter for 90 minutes. Rinsed the steak and patted dry while my cast iron pan was getting nice and hot (I had cooked a half pound of locally smoked bacon and then carmelized onions and some mushrooms in that same pan. These were of course removed and set aside.) With the pan nice and hot and the oven preheated to 425, I gave the steak a light dusting of a spicy 'gourmet' salt and quickly seared it on two sides and then threw it in the oven for 20 minutes. After that, I removed the steak, placed it on a rack and allowed it to rest for another 20 before cutting it paper thin with my Shun carving knife that I got for Christmas.
Now i make this all the time for my family as it's essentially super high quality roast beef for 8 bucks per pound, which is way cheaper than Boar's Head, as one example, and probably a lot healthier. But the heavy salting was a change and an outstanding one at that. The only adjustment I need to make the next time is since the salt wicks so much moisture from the meat, cooking time should be reduced to around 15 minutes in the oven.
This is a great technique for the psuedo-serious home chef and I am going to try it with a rack of spare ribs tomorrow.
EDIT: to clarify, I did this with an intact tenderlean steak, which is about a pound and resembles a trimmed, pork tenderloin in shape. Not individually cut steaks or medallions.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:10 pm
by SAR
I might try this with the last bit of elk I have...
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:16 pm
by Fat Cat
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:One of my favorite cuts is something a local butcher calls "Tenderlean," which is a cut from the Teres Major, also sold as 'mock tenderloin' elsewhere. This cut, if you're not aware of it, is amazing. It's got tons of beef flavor (unlike Fillet) and is almost as tender as a good beef tenderloin/fillet.
I bought two yesterday with the intent to try BB2/75 3 day salt ageing but my gut told me it's a bad idea for this cut and I was correct. I ended-up taking one of them and salting the fuck out of a small, glass baking pan with Kosher salt....about 3 ounces, I'd guess. I covered the meat on all sides with the salt and let it sit on the counter for 90 minutes. Rinsed the steak and patted dry while my cast iron pan was getting nice and hot (I had cooked a half pound of locally smoked bacon and then carmelized onions and some mushrooms in that same pan. These were of course removed and set aside.) With the pan nice and hot and the oven preheated to 425, I gave the steak a light dusting of a spicy 'gourmet' salt and quickly seared it on two sides and then threw it in the oven for 20 minutes. After that, I removed the steak, placed it on a rack and allowed it to rest for another 20 before cutting it paper thin with my Shun carving knife that I got for Christmas.
Now i make this all the time for my family as it's essentially super high quality roast beef for 8 bucks per pound, which is way cheaper than Boar's Head, as one example, and probably a lot healthier. But the heavy salting was a change and an outstanding one at that. The only adjustment I need to make the next time is since the salt wicks so much moisture from the meat, cooking time should be reduced to around 15 minutes in the oven.
This is a great technique for the psuedo-serious home chef and I am going to try it with a rack of spare ribs tomorrow.
EDIT: to clarify, I did this with an intact tenderlean steak, which is about a pound and resembles a trimmed, pork tenderloin in shape. Not individually cut steaks or medallions.
SHUGOY my friend, that sound delicious.
Re: Salt prepped steak
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:17 pm
by Fat Cat
Gorbachev wrote:baffled wrote:.....some family that is visiting from Hawaii...
My sympathies.
