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				MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:18 am
				by johno
				
In a sign of the nervousness surrounding the trip, a sergeant major abruptly told the Marines gathered to hear Mr. Panetta in a tent at Camp Leatherneck to get up, place their M-16 and M-4 automatic rifles and 9-millimeter pistols outside, and return unarmed. The sergeant major, Brandon Hall, told reporters that he was acting on orders.
“All I know is I was told to get the weapons out,” he said. Asked why, he replied: “Somebody got itchy — that’s all I’ve got to say. Somebody got itchy. We just adjust.”
Normally, American forces in Afghanistan keep their weapons when the defense secretary visits and speaks to them. The Afghans in the tent had not been armed to begin with, as is typical.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/15/world ... ml?_r=2&hp
 
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:40 am
				by Fat Cat
				So what?
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:48 am
				by johno
				Whether we stay or go, morale is critical.  This change sends the message: We don't trust you.
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:49 am
				by Fat Cat
				Ah yes, the politics of indignation.  Good luck with that.
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:12 am
				by Zombomatic
				We already know they don't trust us. They've been implementing things for years that show it....one new idea is to have random breathalyzers along with the random urinalysis tests. Fucking ridiculous.
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:40 am
				by Shafpocalypse Now
				No shit, it's called soldiering, not choirboying.
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:35 am
				by johno
				A soldier you won't trust with a gun may as well be a choirboy.
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:43 am
				by Yes, I'm drunk
				johno wrote:A soldier you won't trust with a gun may as well be a choirboy.
True, but the calculus of risk always changes when high-value targets are concerned. It maybe antithetical to honest and true American values, but Leon Panetta is far more important than a whole battalion of regular soldiers, unfortunately.....
 
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:08 am
				by Fat Cat
				No, he's not more important unless you're utterly without a compass on this little planet.
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:23 pm
				by TerryB
				I was less concerned with this than I was with a guy like Leon Panetta being called the "Secretary of Defense" and talking to the soldiers about how "war is hell."
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:04 pm
				by Andy83
				protobuilder wrote:I was less concerned with this than I was with a guy like Leon Panetta being called the "Secretary of Defense" and talking to the soldiers about how "war is hell."
And a phony Commander In Chief who was never even a Boy Scout let alone any military experience whatsoever.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:05 pm
				by Yes, I'm drunk
				Fat Cat wrote:No, he's not more important unless you're utterly without a compass on this little planet.
The facts speak for themselves.....
 
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:09 pm
				by TerryB
				Yes, I'm drunk wrote:Fat Cat wrote:No, he's not more important unless you're utterly without a compass on this little planet.
The facts speak for themselves.....
 
which facts?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:18 pm
				by Yes, I'm drunk
				protobuilder wrote:Yes, I'm drunk wrote:Fat Cat wrote:No, he's not more important unless you're utterly without a compass on this little planet.
The facts speak for themselves.....
 
which facts?
 
The ones reported in johnos link above. You'll need to click it and have a read of it.....
 
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:25 pm
				by TerryB
				i dont click links
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:07 pm
				by Fat Cat
				i don't lick chinks
			 
			
					
				Re: MotherFUCK!  Panetta visits sandy shithole
				Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:08 pm
				by TerryB
				Fat Cat wrote:i don't lick chinks
that shit is played out, playa