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Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:17 pm
by Fat Cat
Bombers have targeted staff at Israeli embassies in India and Georgia, officials say, with Israel accusing Iran of masterminding the attacks. Witnesses said a motorcyclist placed a device on an embassy car in Delhi, causing a blast that hurt four people - one seriously. A bomb underneath a diplomat's car in Tbilisi was defused.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17013987

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:34 pm
by Pinky
This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:40 pm
by bigpeach
I knew that 8-Ball guy from Grand Theft Auto III was a shady character.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:02 pm
by Hebrew Hammer
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:05 pm
by nafod
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Sounds good to me.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:27 pm
by Dan Martin
Lock and load.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:39 pm
by Fat Cat
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:34 pm
by Hebrew Hammer
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:03 pm
by tough old man
Israel has neither the ability or the balls to take on Iran straight up.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:24 pm
by Fat Cat
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Ali ... assination

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:32 pm
by tough old man
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.
This is correct by all accounts.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:52 pm
by Hebrew Hammer
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Ali ... assination
You are right. This is one of those rare circumstances where I made a mistake, and thought you were talking about the guy recently killed.

Having read the article on this fellow, it looks like the revolutionary guards or hezballah took him out. That would explain the use of a unidirectional explosive device.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:14 am
by Kraj 2.0
One thing you'll never hear Swindlerman say: "My people fucked up."

There's always some fuckin' excuse or another as to why they're heartless assholes. It's always someone else's fault. The poor folks are always just trying to protect themselves.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:25 am
by Fat Cat
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Ali ... assination
You are right. This is one of those rare circumstances where I made a mistake, and thought you were talking about the guy recently killed.

Having read the article on this fellow, it looks like the revolutionary guards or hezballah took him out. That would explain the use of a unidirectional explosive device.
Yes, I am right. And you are wrong. And wrong again. http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/daily-n ... inst-iran/

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:45 am
by Gene
Thought that this was about the Dirty War in Afghanistan....

"In the broadest sense, Al-Balawi’s suicide attack was retaliation for the murder of thousands of innocent Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, including ten civilians in Ghazi Khan Village in Narang district of the eastern Afghan province of Kunar. The ten civilians were executed during a midnight raid on Dec 27 by what NATO called "non-military" (meaning CIA) American commandos.


CIA commandos, often Green Berets and Navy SEALs hired into the CIA’s Special Activities Division, do not wear uniforms in violation of international rules of land warfare. Instead they grow long beards and wear traditional Afghan garb and appear to be civilians. During the post-9/11 "global war on terror," these teams have engaged in widespread kidnappings and executions.

CIA commandos are "America’s Einsatzgruppen", similar to the notorious Nazi death squads that hunted and terrorized partisans in the Russian countryside in World War Two. Other CIA commandos function like the Gestapo, terrorizing the resistance cells in urban areas. In both cases, their mission is to terrorize the civilian population into submission."


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=21486


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program


Happening under the "Peace President"...

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:38 am
by Fat Cat
Are you fucking retarded? Usually, when people are having conversations, they talk about the topic at hand and don't just throw out random and disjointed nonsense.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:52 am
by Beer Jew
Fat Cat, could you explain the difference between Americas actions in Genes post, and the murders Israel are accused of?

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:07 am
by Beer Jew
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Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:40 pm
by Yes, I'm drunk
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Ali ... assination
You are right. This is one of those rare circumstances where I made a mistake, and thought you were talking about the guy recently killed.

Having read the article on this fellow, it looks like the revolutionary guards or hezballah took him out. That would explain the use of a unidirectional explosive device.
I don't think you are wrong here, HH.

In the sourced article linked to in the wikipedia piece that FatCat cites, it clearly states that the two collateral victims weren't "maimed", rather that they:
.....were lightly injured.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/t ... e-1.462150

So that's about all we can say here. The principal target was killed, with two "lightly injured" collateral victims. As far as I'm concerned, that's a well executed assassination, especially given the fact that these operations necessarily have to take place in open and crowded public places. To claim otherwise would be disingenuous.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:51 pm
by Pinky
With Israel having a monopoly on nukes in the region, they have the threat of nuking other countries to fall back on if a conflict escalates. If Iran gets a nuke, they lose that monopoly and risk being nuked themselves if they use a nuke. They will have to exercise more restraint in their affairs with neighbors.

I think Israel is likely more motivated by the above than by any real fear that Iran will risk its own annihilation just to lob one or two primitive bombs at Israel.

It's not at all clear that a nuclear Iran will even make the middle east more dangerous.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:56 pm
by Fat Cat
Beer Jew wrote:Fat Cat, could you explain the difference between Americas actions in Genes post, and the murders Israel are accused of?
No.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:57 pm
by Fat Cat
Yes, I'm drunk wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Ali ... assination
You are right. This is one of those rare circumstances where I made a mistake, and thought you were talking about the guy recently killed.

Having read the article on this fellow, it looks like the revolutionary guards or hezballah took him out. That would explain the use of a unidirectional explosive device.
I don't think you are wrong here, HH.

In the sourced article linked to in the wikipedia piece that FatCat cites, it clearly states that the two collateral victims weren't "maimed", rather that they:
.....were lightly injured.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/t ... e-1.462150

So that's about all we can say here. The principal target was killed, with two "lightly injured" collateral victims. As far as I'm concerned, that's a well executed assassination, especially given the fact that these operations necessarily have to take place in open and crowded public places. To claim otherwise would be disingenuous.
Your sophistry aside, I can assume you will be just as generous in your appraisal of the wave of assassinations that is about to befall Israel.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:46 pm
by Yes, I'm drunk
Fat Cat wrote:
Yes, I'm drunk wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Pinky wrote:This is terrorism, and is unacceptable.

Unless they got the story wrong and Israel planted bombs targeting Iranian diplomats. Then it's OK.
Right on target, Pinky. That diplomat's wife was instrumental in targeting Iran for destruction.
Yes, and I'm sure the innocent passers-by maimed by Mossad when they murdered Massoud Ali-Mohammadi were instrumental to Iran's nuclear ambitions. Life is so simple when you reverse-engineer the facts from the datum of your own worthless opinion.
Right on target, Fatty. The bombers who killed Ali-Mohammadi were aiming at someone trying to build nuclear weapons that could be used to kill all sorts of neighbors. They used a magnetized one-way charge aimed at limiting the explosion to the car itself, and I believe only Ali-Mohammadi and the driver died. The action is directed at a military target and was done with minimal damage to anyone else.

A bit different from trying to blow up the wife of a diplomat.
Your facts are totally wrong, not that you care. He was killed by an exploding motorcycle parked near his car, and it maimed two innocent people passing by and shattered the windows of all nearby buildings endangering dozens more. He was a 50-year-old researcher with no prominent political voice, no published work with military relevance and no known links to Iran's nuclear program. He was also a known supporter of the political opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Ali ... assination
You are right. This is one of those rare circumstances where I made a mistake, and thought you were talking about the guy recently killed.

Having read the article on this fellow, it looks like the revolutionary guards or hezballah took him out. That would explain the use of a unidirectional explosive device.
I don't think you are wrong here, HH.

In the sourced article linked to in the wikipedia piece that FatCat cites, it clearly states that the two collateral victims weren't "maimed", rather that they:
.....were lightly injured.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/t ... e-1.462150

So that's about all we can say here. The principal target was killed, with two "lightly injured" collateral victims. As far as I'm concerned, that's a well executed assassination, especially given the fact that these operations necessarily have to take place in open and crowded public places. To claim otherwise would be disingenuous.
Your sophistry aside, I can assume you will be just as generous in your appraisal of the wave of assassinations that is about to befall Israel.
Point taken.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:28 pm
by DARTH
Difference is the Mossad or their Proxy has actually tried to minamize collateral's in Iran itself. The Ragheads will only do this in India as if they killed an Indian Iran might have to answer to the Indians. They won't be so cautious in Isreal in fact they will do everything to maximise collateral killing and maiming. The jews will vaporise Iran if push comes to shove. GOOD.

Re: Secret Wars

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:40 pm
by Fat Cat
No Darth, there is no difference. Israel is now, and has long been, at or below the moral level of Iran. In other news, the war rages on and middle easterners continue to behave like children:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17026007