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State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:32 am
by Fat Cat
At least three of the 12 victims of the shooting died because they were physically protecting the women they came to the movie with.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... women.html

You often hear people talking about so-called "pussified American males" so I post this in rebuttal. Heroic men all, so RIP.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:07 am
by Yes, I'm drunk
I'd be careful with that one. The author of the piece, Hanna Rosin, also said, according to a comment in the comments section underneath the article:
It is now a bad thing to protect women. It shows that women cannot protect themselves, and therefore it looks bad. Ergo, only the most primate-like animalistic male chauvinist would protect her girlfriend from a homicidal maniac. These men were anti-feminists and perhaps needed a course on Woman's Studies at Yale. Failing that, I have a book which they can read in the purgatory.
She actually seems to be reversing the idea of male heroism in order to make another, derogatory, feminist inspired critique of their behavior.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:45 am
by Alfred_E._Neuman
She's just pissed because her ironing board is broken. The man in her life will no doubt be generous enough to get her a new one and she'll be in a much better mood.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:49 am
by Kenny X
Yes, I'm drunk wrote:I'd be careful with that one. The author of the piece, Hanna Rosin, also said, according to a comment in the comments section underneath the article:
It is now a bad thing to protect women. It shows that women cannot protect themselves, and therefore it looks bad. WHAAA-WHA-WHAAA WHA WHA-WHA-WHAAAA WHA-WHA WHAAA-WHA-WHAAA WHA WHA-WHA-WHAAAA ... These men were anti-feminists and perhaps needed a course on Woman's WHA-WHA-WHAA at Yale. Failing that, I have a WHA-WHA-WHAAAY in purgatory.
She actually seems to be reversing the idea of male heroism in order to make another, derogatory, feminist inspired critique of their behavior.
Remember the old Charlie Brown cartoons, where when the adults would talk they'd sound like a muted, retarded trumpet?

It's like that for me whenever radical feminists are speaking. And apparently typing, too.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:49 pm
by milosz
Yes, I'm drunk wrote:I'd be careful with that one. The author of the piece, Hanna Rosin, also said, according to a comment in the comments section underneath the article:
It is now a bad thing to protect women. It shows that women cannot protect themselves, and therefore it looks bad. Ergo, only the most primate-like animalistic male chauvinist would protect her girlfriend from a homicidal maniac. These men were anti-feminists and perhaps needed a course on Woman's Studies at Yale. Failing that, I have a book which they can read in the purgatory.
She actually seems to be reversing the idea of male heroism in order to make another, derogatory, feminist inspired critique of their behavior.
Um... no. Not at all. The commenter is making up words to put in Rosin's mouth, based on a fairly weak misreading of Rosin. That you, and presumably a lot of other people, have latched on to. Which is fucked up.

Rosin isn't a 'radical feminist,' folks.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:18 pm
by Andy83
I've heard some stories about women protecting and saving other women but no stories of women protecting men. And what about those new style below the knee short pants men have accepted. They have no fly hole!! WTF is that? We supposed to sit down to piss now? Let them win the battle of putting the toilet seat down? They gonna remove stand up urinals from public men's rooms?

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:38 pm
by KingSchmaltzBagelHour
You pull your dick out through the fly hole? I didn't know anyon actually did that.
I also have no idea what short pants you are talking about.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:07 pm
by Yes, I'm drunk
milosz wrote:
Yes, I'm drunk wrote:I'd be careful with that one. The author of the piece, Hanna Rosin, also said, according to a comment in the comments section underneath the article:
It is now a bad thing to protect women. It shows that women cannot protect themselves, and therefore it looks bad. Ergo, only the most primate-like animalistic male chauvinist would protect her girlfriend from a homicidal maniac. These men were anti-feminists and perhaps needed a course on Woman's Studies at Yale. Failing that, I have a book which they can read in the purgatory.
She actually seems to be reversing the idea of male heroism in order to make another, derogatory, feminist inspired critique of their behavior.
Um... no. Not at all. The commenter is making up words to put in Rosin's mouth, based on a fairly weak misreading of Rosin. That you, and presumably a lot of other people, have latched on to. Which is fucked up.

Rosin isn't a 'radical feminist,' folks.
With respect, she has written a book entitled The End of Men: And the Rise of Women. If she's not a radical feminist in your book, then you've set the bar pretty high for what one is.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:34 pm
by T200
We had a similar but lesser (not as many kills but used armor, multiple guns, tear gas, gas mask) shooting like this at the local bar all the chumps from my high school go to in my home town.

My boy Bret (featured prominently in that old drug thread) got shot in the shin running across the line of fire to save his girlfriend.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:05 pm
by johno
Fat Cat wrote:At least three of the 12 victims of the shooting died because they were physically protecting the women they came to the movie with.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... women.html

You often hear people talking about so-called "pussified American males" so I post this in rebuttal. Heroic men all, so RIP.
Good post, Fatty. The article was also good. Thanks.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:27 pm
by milosz
Yes, I'm drunk wrote:With respect, she has written a book entitled The End of Men: And the Rise of Women. If she's not a radical feminist in your book, then you've set the bar pretty high for what one is.
I've read the Atlantic story that was expanded into that book, which would have had to have changed a lot to be anti-male. You should probably delve deeper into what she's actually written rather than assume that because something is titled "the end of men" it's an Andrea Dworkin tract. She's rather neutral when it comes to gender, and rather concerned with the changing roles of men and challenges to them (lower college degree rates, higher unemployment, etc.) for a 'radical feminist.'

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:01 pm
by Andy83
ButterCupPowerRanch wrote:You pull your dick out through the fly hole? I didn't know anyon actually did that.
I also have no idea what short pants you are talking about.
Where do you hang out, under a rock? All the men in 'merica(except me) are wearing them. Faggoty "shorts with baggy legs that hang below or at the knee. They have no fly hole. If you pull them down far enough to piss over the top of the waist band, invariably you'll piss on them so you have to pull them way down and sit down to avoid pissing on them. They had to have been designed by a hateful female.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:16 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
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John Blunk: Saved his girlfriend by throwing himself on top of her using his body as a shield.
Alex Teves: Pushed his girlfriend to the floor and was struck by a bullet in the process.
Matt McQuinn: Dove on top of his girlfriend as soon as the shooting began.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:19 pm
by TerryB
that piece of shit nerd neuroscience student should be fed to the dogs

worthless piece of shit

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:27 pm
by Fat Cat
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Image
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John Blunk: Saved his girlfriend by throwing himself on top of her using his body as a shield.
Alex Teves: Pushed his girlfriend to the floor and was struck by a bullet in the process.
Matt McQuinn: Dove on top of his girlfriend as soon as the shooting began.
Regular dudes who turned out to be anything but regular. RIP all.

Re: State of the American Male: Data Point Aurora, CO

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:23 pm
by Pinky
Blaidd Drwg wrote:John Blunk: Saved his girlfriend by throwing himself on top of her using his body as a shield.
Alex Teves: Pushed his girlfriend to the floor and was struck by a bullet in the process.
Matt McQuinn: Dove on top of his girlfriend as soon as the shooting began.
They all did something wonderful in a terrible situation.

This 19-year-old also deserves credit for protecting a woman and her two children after the baby-dady (now fiance) dropped one of the kids and ran.