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This is a perfect representation of the campaign: an old white man arguing with an imaginary Barack Obama.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Are we calling this now? Obama with about 330 electoral votes?

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote:I think Obama will win, but it'll be close. Plenty of people are still hurting from the economy and they'll think the President actually has some magic wand he should be able to wave and fix the problems, so they'll look to oust one CIC for another.

But there are more people who go with the devil they know over the devil they don't. When there's no enormous distinction between the two, most idiots will stick with the incumbent.

Andy78 wrote:That's good Proto. As long as more Democrats show up and you keep working hard so I will keep getting my free stuff

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote:When there's no enormous distinction between the two, most idiots will stick with the incumbent.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote:When there's no enormous distinction between the two, most idiots will stick with the incumbent.

This is actually one of the few times where there is a pretty big policy gap between the two. McCain v. Obama, not so much, but this current version of Romney is a pretty stark difference.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote:When there's no enormous distinction between the two, most idiots will stick with the incumbent.

This is actually one of the few times where there is a pretty big policy gap between the two. McCain v. Obama, not so much, but this current version of Romney is a pretty stark difference.

BucketHead wrote:So I guess it's down to Obama or Gary Johnson

protobuilder wrote:

Andy78 wrote:That's good Proto. As long as more Democrats show up and you keep working hard so I will keep getting my free stuff

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I don't think anybody really cares about your pretending, Andy.

climber511 wrote:I had a friend who went to all the political conventions - said it was the best place to get laid he ever saw.

BucketHead wrote:I've read through most of the approved platform. Looks like 2012 will be the first time ever for me not to vote republican. As usual, the financial and governing ideas are generally appealing, but the social platform looks like something from the middle ages and national security platform reads like we're about to invade Austria and kill the jews.

So I guess it's down to Obama or Gary Johnson

- In a free society, the primary role of government is to protect the God-given...
- The Republican Party, born in opposition to the denial of liberty, stands for the rights of individuals, families, faith communities...
- That assurance has never been more needed than it is today, as liberal elites try to drive religious beliefs – and religious believers – out of the public square. The Founders of the American Republic universally agree that democracy presupposes a moral people and that, in the words of George Washington’s Farewell Address, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”
- We support the public display of the Ten Commandments as a reflection of our history and of our country’s Judeo-Christian heritage
- We assert every citizen’s right to apply religious values to public policy and the right of faith-based organizations to participate fully in public programs without renouncing their beliefs, removing religious symbols, or submitting to government-imposed hiring practices.
- We condemn the hate campaigns, threats of violence, and vandalism by proponents of same-sex marriage against advocates of traditional marriage and call for a federal investigation into attempts to deny religious believers their civil rights.
- We acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense.
- We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.
- We condemn decisions by activist judges to deny children the opportunity to say the Pledge of Allegiance in its entirety, including “Under God,” in public schools and encourage States to promote the pledge.
- We support the prohibition of gambling over the Internet
- Current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity need to be vigorously enforced
- We renew our call for replacing “family planning” programs for teens with abstinence education which teaches abstinence until marriage as the responsible and respected standard of behavior.
- We call on State officials to ensure that our public colleges and universities be places of learning and the exchange of ideas, not zones of intellectual intolerance favoring the Left.

milosz wrote:http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Nate Silver was frighteningly accurate in 2008, Obama wins 70% of the time in his simulations. In the middle of Romney's presumptive convention bump.

BucketHead wrote:

- In a free society, the primary role of government is to protect the God-given...
- The Republican Party, born in opposition to the denial of liberty, stands for the rights of individuals, families, faith communities...
- That assurance has never been more needed than it is today, as liberal elites try to drive religious beliefs – and religious believers – out of the public square. The Founders of the American Republic universally agree that democracy presupposes a moral people and that, in the words of George Washington’s Farewell Address, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”
- We support the public display of the Ten Commandments as a reflection of our history and of our country’s Judeo-Christian heritage
- We assert every citizen’s right to apply religious values to public policy and the right of faith-based organizations to participate fully in public programs without renouncing their beliefs, removing religious symbols, or submitting to government-imposed hiring practices.
- We condemn the hate campaigns, threats of violence, and vandalism by proponents of same-sex marriage against advocates of traditional marriage and call for a federal investigation into attempts to deny religious believers their civil rights.
- We acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense.
- We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.
- We condemn decisions by activist judges to deny children the opportunity to say the Pledge of Allegiance in its entirety, including “Under God,” in public schools and encourage States to promote the pledge.
- We support the prohibition of gambling over the Internet
- Current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity need to be vigorously enforced
- We renew our call for replacing “family planning” programs for teens with abstinence education which teaches abstinence until marriage as the responsible and respected standard of behavior.
- We call on State officials to ensure that our public colleges and universities be places of learning and the exchange of ideas, not zones of intellectual intolerance favoring the Left.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:I can find not a single supportable idea in that entire load of shite.

Blaidd Drwg wrote: Our Rights are thankfully not god given, they're written down. It's more reliable that way.