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Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:51 am
by DrDonkeyLove
Not who do you support, but which candidate wins the presidency?

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:01 am
by dead man walking
this guy appears to know polls. he has been mentioned here previously, i believe.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:08 am
by ___________
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Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:10 am
by johno
MarcoFP wrote:Obama.
That nigger by slaughter.
Go back to shit you know. Like grappling.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:11 am
by ___________
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Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:34 am
by Holland Oates
Romney. The Redskins lost today.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:36 am
by Turdacious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect

IMO this will be used to explain the results.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:52 am
by Turdacious
There are dozens of presidential opinion polls these days, and even more interpretations what they mean. But predictions keep changing, which calls into question how useful they are. The closer you get to an election the easier it is to call it, at least in theory. But it is not really predicting when you change your take on the race with every new poll. For example Nate Silver at his New York Times blog has consistently “predicted” an Obama victory, yet has altered the odds on a daily basis. This is the equivalent of claiming you can predict the outcome of a baseball game, but then changing the odds inning by inning to reflect the evolving state of play. Yes your “prediction” will be very accurate once you reach the 9th inning, but it also doesn't take a stat wizard to make the call.

Traditional social science models do more than simply rehash and average out the latest daily surveys. They look at the influence of variables like age, education, income, sex, race, the economy, and other such factors to come up with more durable conclusions. For example University of Colorado Professors Ken Bickers and Michael Berry have developed a model based on state-level economic data that predicts Mitt Romney winning with 330 electoral votes. They have applied this model successfully to every presidential race since 1980. It does not shift around with the polls; in fact it does not use them at all.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/rob ... -cant-win/

Reminds me of a line from a song:

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Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:45 am
by Protobuilder
Not that many opportunities for Romney to pull this election out.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012 ... house.html

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:48 pm
by KingSchmaltzBagelHour
Romney. Just a guess, but I don't see the blacks and youths getting out in force like last time.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:50 pm
by KingSchmaltzBagelHour
However, I know a lot of former republicans who switched sides after governor Kasichs antics last year...who knows?

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:48 pm
by Ryan
ButterCupPowerRanch wrote: I don't see the blacks and youths getting out in force like last time.
I think the minorities are going to come out and vote. I think Obama will win because of that.

It's just like any other election. You vote for who you think is the lesser of 2 evils. I'm voting for Romney.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:05 pm
by dingleberry
We all lose whichever one wins.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:19 pm
by tough old man
Does it really matter?

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:13 pm
by Shapecharge
I heard a pollster this morning on the way in to work that had an interesting angle. Prior to the hurricane he gave a slight edge to Mitt but after the hurricane he thinks the fed response will resonate positively with some people and be enough to win the election. Ehh.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:30 pm
by Turdacious
tough old man wrote:Does it really matter?
Yes

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk12ALX9fz8[/youtube]

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:35 pm
by tough old man
Turd, that is exactly what I was thinking!

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:54 pm
by TerryB
It's going to come down to whichever candidate wins Tuesday.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:18 pm
by johno
Fed-up-ness with Obama & his economy will far exceed any Hope & Change carryover from four years ago. Independents & Undecideds go to Romney for the win.

Also, the R base will turn out more than the D's will. I don't see college kids & the newly graduated unemployed showing enthusiasm to vote. Same for minorities. It's not 2008 any more.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:39 pm
by milosz
Obama with right around 300 electoral votes.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:42 pm
by Pinky
Turdacious wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect

IMO this will be used to explain the results.
This is the best argument I've heard for betting on Romney, but I still think Obama's most likely to win.

I just hope it's not settled quickly and easily. I'm hoping for some good laughs over the coming week or two.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:47 pm
by kreator
protobuilder wrote:It's going to come down to whichever candidate wins Tuesday.
Wrong. The guy who has less votes will lose.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:01 pm
by Kenny X
I don't care for either of them. And I think Romney will win by way of circumstances which, though they do not appear similar to the way in which Dubya won over Gore, feel eerily similar, in that Scooby Doo kind of way.

I'm writing-in Frank Zappa, myself. He may be dead, but I have all his records, I agree 100% with the views he espoused while he was alive, and 200 Motels was awesome.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:17 pm
by tough old man
I just hope it's not settled quickly and easily. I'm hoping for some good laughs over the coming week or two.
Thats good right there.

Re: Make A Tuesday Prediction

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:57 pm
by Turdacious
Truman beat Dewey despite being behind in the polls because a lot of Truman's supporters didn't have phones. IMO another reason the polls are off is because of cell phones-- people aren't answering calls from unfamiliar and blocked numbers. And those polls could be off in either direction.

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