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Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:16 pm
by tough old man
I am told that General Mattis was traveling and in a meeting when an aide passed him a note telling him that the Pentagon had announced his replacement as head of Central Command. It was news to him -- he hadn't received a phone call or a heads-up from anyone at the Pentagon or the White House.
I asked a friend about that. He wrote back:
...the commander-in-chief can make a change whenever he wants and give no reason. That is right and proper under our system of government.
But there's also the matter of common courtesy to an uncommon man. Here is what one person wrote to me: "What message does it send to the Services when the one leader known for his war-fighting rather than diplomatic or bureaucratic political skills is retired early via one sentence in the Pentagon's daily press handout? Even in battle, Mattis was inclusive of all under his command. He took the time to pull together his driver and guards after every day's rotation on the battlefield, telling them what he thought he had learned and asking them for input. Surely senior administration officials could have found the time to be gracious. But they didn't." Bing West, admittedly a friend of Mattis and fellow Marine, tells me: "It was injudicious to truncate Mattis's command time because his toughness was well-known across the Middle East. The image of a determined warfighter is precisely what a commander-in-chief should cherish when trying to exert leverage upon a recalcitrant Iran."
Re: Gen Mattis get fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm
by judobrian
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:36 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
When somebody says they got suddenly fired for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I tend to think they're lying.
From the second article:
And Gen. Mattis didn’t just talk the talk; he walked the walk. He led from the front. Indeed, on at least one occasion that I know of, the General was bloodied from a firefight or improvised explosive device while out on patrol with junior, enlisted Marines one-third his age. That’s what makes Gen. Mattis such a great warrior: He truly respects and cares for his Marines.
There's an earth-shattering amount of stupid in that paragraph.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:38 pm
by Fat Cat
People are remarkably soft headed about these things.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:41 pm
by The Ginger Beard Man
Grandpa's Spells wrote:When somebody says they got suddenly fired for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I tend to think they're lying.
From the second article:
And Gen. Mattis didn’t just talk the talk; he walked the walk. He led from the front. Indeed, on at least one occasion that I know of, the General was bloodied from a firefight or improvised explosive device while out on patrol with junior, enlisted Marines one-third his age. That’s what makes Gen. Mattis such a great warrior: He truly respects and cares for his Marines.
There's an earth-shattering amount of stupid in that paragraph.
It's called leadership.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:42 pm
by Fat Cat
Uh, no. It's called bad prose.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:42 pm
by TerryB
Grandpa's Spells wrote:When somebody says they got suddenly fired for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I tend to think they're lying.
From the second article:
And Gen. Mattis didn’t just talk the talk; he walked the walk. He led from the front. Indeed, on at least one occasion that I know of, the General was bloodied from a firefight or improvised explosive device while out on patrol with junior, enlisted Marines one-third his age. That’s what makes Gen. Mattis such a great warrior: He truly respects and cares for his Marines.
There's an earth-shattering amount of stupid in that paragraph.
I didn't click the link but you also have to wonder whether the journalist that wrote the paragraph has his or her facts straight, or has any military experience such that he or she would know the difference between say, a combat patrol and a HQ convoy.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:52 pm
by The Ginger Beard Man
protobuilder wrote:Grandpa's Spells wrote:When somebody says they got suddenly fired for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I tend to think they're lying.
From the second article:
And Gen. Mattis didn’t just talk the talk; he walked the walk. He led from the front. Indeed, on at least one occasion that I know of, the General was bloodied from a firefight or improvised explosive device while out on patrol with junior, enlisted Marines one-third his age. That’s what makes Gen. Mattis such a great warrior: He truly respects and cares for his Marines.
There's an earth-shattering amount of stupid in that paragraph.
I didn't click the link but you also have to wonder whether the journalist that wrote the paragraph has his or her facts straight, or has any military experience such that he or she would know the difference between say, a combat patrol and a HQ convoy.
Safe to assume the answer is no to all of the above.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:53 pm
by Dan Martin
He'll get over it.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:33 pm
by buckethead
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Grandpa's Spells wrote:When somebody says they got suddenly fired for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I tend to think they're lying.
From the second article:
And Gen. Mattis didn’t just talk the talk; he walked the walk. He led from the front. Indeed, on at least one occasion that I know of, the General was bloodied from a firefight or improvised explosive device while out on patrol with junior, enlisted Marines one-third his age. That’s what makes Gen. Mattis such a great warrior: He truly respects and cares for his Marines.
There's an earth-shattering amount of stupid in that paragraph.
It's called leadership.
Having a 4-star out on patrol is leadership?! I'll let an 0301 pipe up but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Re: Gen Mattis gets fucked
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:48 am
by The Ginger Beard Man
BucketHead wrote:The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Grandpa's Spells wrote:When somebody says they got suddenly fired for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I tend to think they're lying.
From the second article:
And Gen. Mattis didn’t just talk the talk; he walked the walk. He led from the front. Indeed, on at least one occasion that I know of, the General was bloodied from a firefight or improvised explosive device while out on patrol with junior, enlisted Marines one-third his age. That’s what makes Gen. Mattis such a great warrior: He truly respects and cares for his Marines.
There's an earth-shattering amount of stupid in that paragraph.
It's called leadership.
Having a 4-star out on patrol is leadership?! I'll let an 0301 pipe up but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Ambrose has a great story in Citizen Soldiers about Norman Cota, a general who was a day away from becoming commander of the 29th Infantry Division, storming a farmhouse in Normandy on June 7th with a couple hand grenades.