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Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:56 pm
by Kenny X
Like others, Jesse Silverberg believed that mosh and circle pits were random groups of people dancing wildly (and a bit violently). But five years ago, he took his girlfriend to her first (and last) heavy metal concert. Instead of jumping into the mosh pit at the In Flames show, he stayed with her on the outskirts. As the band played louder and the moshers presumably got drunker, Silverberg observed a pattern. One person would bump into another and the movement would ripple across the mosh pit.
“The collision went from one side to the other,” he says, adding it looked like moshers followed the rules of collective motion. “I had a hard time focusing on the music for the rest of the evening.”
Several years later in a statistical mechanics class with James Sethna, professor of physics at Cornell, Silverberg recalled the ripple-like movement in the mosh pit and thought studying it might make an interesting experiment. With the help of a fellow graduate student, Matt Bierbaum, Silverberg examined whether humans in mosh pits and circle pits truly followed the rules of collective motion, which describes phenomena such as flocking as seen with birds or schools of fish. (In mosh pits, people bounce off one another and in circle pits they rush around in a circular motion.)
They watched and analyzed about 100 videos from YouTube of people participating in either mosh or circle pits.
“I watched with pleasure,” says Silverberg. When he examined the dancers in mosh pits he realized that they behaved like gas particles bouncing around in the air in unpredictable ways. People in circle pits, on the other hand, dance in an ordered pattern, like flocks of migrating birds.
http://bodyodd.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/0 ... think?lite
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:29 pm
by TerryB
Congratulations Jesse Silverberg: you're a complete f@ggot!
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:21 am
by Protobuilder
This has blown open my understanding of the entire world.
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:20 am
by Fuzzy Dunlop
Who the fuck drinks before/during metal shows?

Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:49 am
by Kenny X
Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:Who the fuck drinks before/during metal shows?

This guy for sure!

Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:02 am
by DARTH
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:48 am
by Brutal Bajan
I hate it when these faggots think they're enlightened or have some deeper understanding of something as simple as moshing by applying something out of a physics textbook to it.
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:29 am
by DARTH
Brutal Bajan wrote:I hate it when these faggots think they're enlightened or have some deeper understanding of something as simple as moshing by applying something out of a physics textbook to it.
And to those faggots I say.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNKKAXtaxco
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:30 am
by DARTH
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:56 pm
by Kenny X
Fucking awesome!
Also, I like the S.O.D. videos, as well and since we're talking about thrash, we can't leave these guys out-
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pfTVptGdGg[/youtube]
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:14 pm
by TerryB
Brutal Bajan wrote:I hate it when these faggots think they're enlightened or have some deeper understanding of something as simple as moshing by applying something out of a physics textbook to it.
Exactly. If youre at a metal show and instead of moshing or enjoying the music, you're pondering physics and game theory, you deserve a beating.
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:38 pm
by Kenny X
protobuilder wrote:Brutal Bajan wrote:I hate it when these faggots think they're enlightened or have some deeper understanding of something as simple as moshing by applying something out of a physics textbook to it.
Exactly. If youre at a metal show and instead of moshing or enjoying the music, you're pondering physics and game theory, you deserve a beating.
I think the reason that In Flames was his "girlfriend's" first and only metal show was because instead of being cool and drinking and enjoying himself, he got all cerebral about it and it put her off the whole scene.
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:35 pm
by DARTH
Dr. Agkistrodon wrote:
Fucking awesome!
Also, I like the S.O.D. videos, as well and since we're talking about thrash, we can't leave these guys out-
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pfTVptGdGg[/youtube]
OH HELL MUTHERFUCKIN YES!
Another great show from my past.
Kreator and DRI at Summer's on the Beach, onthe Ft. Liquerdale strip.
Both bands played 2 hour sets.
That was a 3 day weekend where I watched a local band's show on Friday, Malevolent Creation (My fave local act at the time), then Kreator and DRI (my fave Euro thrash and Hardcore/Crossover band) on Saturday and then Sunday was Iron Maiden, 7th Son tour! (My fave NWOBHM band.
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:46 pm
by Kenny X
DARTH wrote:Dr. Agkistrodon wrote:
Fucking awesome!
Also, I like the S.O.D. videos, as well and since we're talking about thrash, we can't leave these guys out-
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pfTVptGdGg[/youtube]
OH HELL MUTHERFUCKIN YES!
Another great show from my past.
Kreator and DRI at Summer's on the Beach, onthe Ft. Liquerdale strip.
Both bands played 2 hour sets.
That was a 3 day weekend where I watched a local band's show on Friday, Malevolent Creation (My fave local act at the time), then Kreator and DRI (my fave Euro thrash and Hardcore/Crossover band) on Saturday and then Sunday was Iron Maiden, 7th Son tour! (My fave NWOBHM band.
Do you realize that DRI could probably play their entire catalog almost twice in two hours!!!
And in a non-joking sense, that pretty much beats any show experience (metal, punk, hardcore or otherwise) I've ever had. Awesome.
Re: Mosh pit: Heeere comes the science!
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:01 pm
by DARTH
Yeah they could as a matter of fact they did play 1 or 2 songs again!
This is what you can do when your 15, look older and your mom is fucking off, not doing her job as a parent.