"...overflowing with foulmouthed ignorance."
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Ditto. I'm sickened.What little I have read has scarred me for life.
Grandpa's Spells wrote:http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... ry/274944/
Abortion doctor delivering live babies and killing them with scissors. Storing fetuses in milk jars and cat food tins.
It's the medical profession in general.Shafpocalypse Now wrote:The issue is that upon making abortion difficult to get, you open the door to grotesqueries like this. Disparate people plus scumbag opportunists.
Hard to get? How? The fact is, this happened because abortion was too easy to get and no one bothered to look because it went against what the democrats stand for.Shafpocalypse Now wrote:The issue is that upon making abortion difficult to get, you open the door to grotesqueries like this. Disparate people plus scumbag opportunists.
That's pretty clear, isn't it?Pennsylvania Department of Health. The department's job is to audit hospitals and outpatient medical facilities, like Gosnell's, to make sure that they follow the rules and provide safe care. The department had contact with the Women's Medical Society dating back to 1979, when it first issued approval to open an abortion clinic. It did not conduct another site review until 1989, ten years later. Numerous violations were already apparent, but Gosnell got a pass when he promised to fix them. Site reviews in 1992 and 1993 also noted various violations, but again failed to ensure they were corrected.
But at least the department had been doing something up to that point, however ineffectual. After 1993, even that pro form a effort came to an end. Not because of administrative ennui, although there had been plenty. Instead, the Pennsylvania Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion clinics at all...
The Department of State, through its Board of Medicine, licenses and oversees individual physicians... Almost a decade ago, a former employee of Gosnell presented the Board of Medicine with a complaint that laid out the whole scope of his operation: the unclean, unsterile conditions; the unlicensed workers; the unsupervised sedation; the underage abortion patients; even the over-prescribing of pain pills with high resale value on the street. The department assigned an investigator, whose investigation consisted primarily of an offsite interview with Gosnell. The investigator never inspected the facility, questioned other employees, or reviewed any records. Department attorneys chose to accept this incomplete investigation, and dismissed the complaint as unconfirmed.
Shortly thereafter the department received an even more disturbing report -- about a woman, years before Karnamaya Mongar, who died of sepsis after Gosnell perforated her uterus. The woman was 22 years old. A civil suit against Gosnell was settled for almost a million dollars, and the insurance company forwarded the information to the department. That report should have been all the confirmation needed for the complaint from the former employee that was already in the department's possession. Instead, the department attorneys dismissed this complaint too... The same thing happened at least twice more: the department received complaints about lawsuits against Gosnell, but dismissed them as meaningless...
No kidding that this NAF rep didn't say anything. Because her and the entire government establishment repeatedly refused to look at the clinic, inspect it, hold him accountable, pretty much anything else. Everyone who was supposed to know about it knew about it but they deliberately turned a blind eye. These people were government official and members of a liberal organization and they deserve the blame on this. Conservatives who oppose abortion are not to blame for this. The grand jury even said this was ignored for political reasons.NAF is an association of abortion providers that upholds the strictest health and legal standards for its members. Gosnell, bizarrely, applied for admission shortly after Karnamaya Mongar's death. Despite his various efforts to fool her, the evaluator from NAF readily noted that records were not properly kept, that risks were not explained, that patients were not monitored, that equipment was not available, that anesthesia was misused. It was the worst abortion clinic she had ever inspected. Of course, she rejected Gosnell's application. She just never told anyone in authority about all the horrible, dangerous things she had seen.
Exactly. Just like doctors have co-opted childbirth and taken it away from midwives so too have they co-opted infanticide, which has been a mother's right and responsibility since the dawn of time. Women have been disenfranchised for too long, we need a home based movement that mirrors the renaissance of midwives and doulas that health conscious women demand.Turdacious wrote: It's the medical profession in general.
What a coward. I'm an American citizen just like you. I served my country. You just don't have any response.Shafpocalypse Now wrote:I'm with Baf. Chessman's political opinions are null because doesn't live in the us.
Even if you set aside the abortion issue, and that of the children killed, fact is that women were harmed when a doctor refused to abide by accepted and established medical standards. The state, which has a responsibility to regulate his medical practice, failed in it's obligation to protect them.Chessman wrote:Shortly thereafter the department received an even more disturbing report -- about a woman, years before Karnamaya Mongar, who died of sepsis after Gosnell perforated her uterus. The woman was 22 years old. A civil suit against Gosnell was settled for almost a million dollars, and the insurance company forwarded the information to the department. That report should have been all the confirmation needed for the complaint from the former employee that was already in the department's possession. Instead, the department attorneys dismissed this complaint too... The same thing happened at least twice more: the department received complaints about lawsuits against Gosnell, but dismissed them as meaningless...No kidding that this NAF rep didn't say anything. Because her and the entire government establishment repeatedly refused to look at the clinic, inspect it, hold him accountable, pretty much anything else. Everyone who was supposed to know about it knew about it but they deliberately turned a blind eye.NAF is an association of abortion providers that upholds the strictest health and legal standards for its members. Gosnell, bizarrely, applied for admission shortly after Karnamaya Mongar's death. Despite his various efforts to fool her, the evaluator from NAF readily noted that records were not properly kept, that risks were not explained, that patients were not monitored, that equipment was not available, that anesthesia was misused. It was the worst abortion clinic she had ever inspected. Of course, she rejected Gosnell's application. She just never told anyone in authority about all the horrible, dangerous things she had seen.
According to the CDC, Troy, 1,979 pregnancies "greater than 21 weeks" were terminated in New York City in 2009. Does anyone else wonder how many "viable" kids had their spines snipped with scissors? All over the US it was 7,206 "late term abortions".Grandpa's Spells wrote:http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... ry/274944/
Abortion doctor delivering live babies and killing them with scissors. Storing fetuses in milk jars and cat food tins.
Same to you asshole.Shafpocalypse Now wrote:As far as this issue of me being a coward, you can go and eat a big fat pile of shit, fucktard.