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Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:31 pm
by newguy
Hello!

A dog question....have a new boxer puppy....about six months old. Have had her since spring.

Nice weather, she stays out on our patio when we are not home.

In front of our fence there is some brickwork.

She is now getting old enough to jump up on the brickwork, and then possibly up and over the fence. We had this same problem with our first boxer.

What are some options to keep her off this brickwork? Planters don't work that well. Electronic fences seem to be based on a circle, and this doesn't work.

We saw some mats designed for indoors that people can lay on a couch. Was thinking of getting a couple of those....but they are expensive and I hate to spend that much for something I don't know will work.

Was considering getting a plastic floor run and laying it spiky side up....but again, would that even work?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:35 pm
by TerryB
Get rid of the dog.

Dogs are filthy.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:21 pm
by baffled
Let her stay inside when you're gone.

Maybe the garage if it stays cool enough.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:36 pm
by newguy
baffled wrote:Let her stay inside when you're gone.

Maybe the garage if it stays cool enough.
She has been, but she is getting at an age where she may be best outside, until she passes through her rambunctious stage.

Garage is not an option. Too hot.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:36 pm
by newguy
protobuilder wrote:Get rid of the dog.

Dogs are filthy.
Would have to get rid of the wife and kid as well.....

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:38 pm
by Cave Canem
theAbstract wrote:
protobuilder wrote:Get rid of the dog.

Dogs are filthy.
Would have to get rid of the wife and kid as well.....
Go for the trifecta!

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:42 pm
by Yes I Have Balls
Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:58 pm
by newguy
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.
No....I've never bought into the crate training thing......she is potty trained. She is well-behaved when we are home....but now when we leave we are coming back to disasters. Puppy phase.

We kept our terrier in the kitchen during this phase. And now he is fine. He has been staying in the house while we are gone for a long time.

Keeping her outside on the patio works....I just need to try and keep her off this ledge. (it is more than a ledge. It is a wide swath of brick work people can sit on. I hate it, but never had the time/energy to destroy it, haul it away, and pour concrete to fill in the large gap that would be left.)

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:20 pm
by Yes I Have Balls
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.
No....I've never bought into the crate training thing......she is potty trained. She is well-behaved when we are home....but now when we leave we are coming back to disasters. Puppy phase.
This doesn't change my advice. Many people have really weird ideas about what crate training actually is. Good luck in whatever you decide - sounds like demolition of the brick is the choice.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:27 pm
by newguy
Yes I Have Balls wrote:
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.
No....I've never bought into the crate training thing......she is potty trained. She is well-behaved when we are home....but now when we leave we are coming back to disasters. Puppy phase.
This doesn't change my advice. Many people have really weird ideas about what crate training actually is. Good luck in whatever you decide - sounds like demolition of the brick is the choice.
I have really weird ideas about what crate training is. I picture throwing her in box and leaving her until her spirit is broken......I should probably research it a bit.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:48 pm
by DrDonkeyLove
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.
No....I've never bought into the crate training thing......she is potty trained. She is well-behaved when we are home....but now when we leave we are coming back to disasters. Puppy phase.

We kept our terrier in the kitchen during this phase. And now he is fine. He has been staying in the house while we are gone for a long time.

Keeping her outside on the patio works....I just need to try and keep her off this ledge. (it is more than a ledge. It is a wide swath of brick work people can sit on. I hate it, but never had the time/energy to destroy it, haul it away, and pour concrete to fill in the large gap that would be left.)
I am on my 2nd boxer and neither of them were jumpers. Also, I live where the weather of often awful so the back yard isn't much of an option.

I was resistant to crating my first boxer but once we did it, he loved his crate. It essentially became his canine man cave where he could relax. As he got older we hardly ever latched the door when we were away but he didn't really care either way, it was where he liked to relax. Boxer #2 is a female and she's very happy with her crate while we're away. If the patio is in shade, perhaps putting a crate out there might work. That way she can enjoy the outside while remaining safe.

Wall modification isn't in my wheelhouse so I have nothing to offer there.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:51 pm
by Yes I Have Balls
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.
No....I've never bought into the crate training thing......she is potty trained. She is well-behaved when we are home....but now when we leave we are coming back to disasters. Puppy phase.
This doesn't change my advice. Many people have really weird ideas about what crate training actually is. Good luck in whatever you decide - sounds like demolition of the brick is the choice.
I have really weird ideas about what crate training is. I picture throwing her in box and leaving her until her spirit is broken......I should probably research it a bit.
Not at all! However, you aren't alone in thinking this - 90% of all dog owners I've ever met have no clue how great having a crate trained dog is and how much the dogs love it.

Look into it.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:55 pm
by Yes I Have Balls
DrDonkeyLove wrote:I was resistant to crating my first boxer but once we did it, he loved his crate. It essentially became his canine man cave where he could relax. As he got older we hardly ever latched the door when we were away but he didn't really care either way, it was where he liked to relax. Boxer #2 is a female and she's very happy with her crate while we're away. If the patio is in shade, perhaps putting a crate out there might work. That way she can enjoy the outside while remaining safe.

Wall modification isn't in my wheelhouse so I have nothing to offer there.
Up until she passed away 3 years ago, I had a 50lb blue heeler, that while more docile and calm than most herders/workers, needed to be exercised a LOT. I'd exhaust her for an hour before leaving for work, feed her then crate her with the door open for 9+ hours while I was at work.

Anyway, long story short, I had to move to an apartment (from a 1/2-acre yarded house) for a year, and there is no chance in hell that my dog and I could have managed if she weren't crate-trained.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:03 pm
by T200
Do you have a whole spare room available? I have a solution that requires that.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:22 pm
by milosz
I was anti-crate training until my parents did it with their corgi. The door hasn't been closed on her in 18 months or so, but she still runs into her little doggie-cave at bed time or when there's thunder.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:05 pm
by baffled
Yes I Have Balls wrote:
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:
theAbstract wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Is your dog crate trained? If not, that would be the first step, IMO.
No....I've never bought into the crate training thing......she is potty trained. She is well-behaved when we are home....but now when we leave we are coming back to disasters. Puppy phase.
This doesn't change my advice. Many people have really weird ideas about what crate training actually is. Good luck in whatever you decide - sounds like demolition of the brick is the choice.
I have really weird ideas about what crate training is. I picture throwing her in box and leaving her until her spirit is broken......I should probably research it a bit.
Not at all! However, you aren't alone in thinking this - 90% of all dog owners I've ever met have no clue how great having a crate trained dog is and how much the dogs love it.

Look into it.
I think in those posts on the Austin humane society, Lyle talks about the benefits of crate training.

My 17 year old mini-mutt used to love his crate, but now that I work out of the house, he's less happy with it because it means he's being left alone.

Still though, up until about 14 and a half, the crate was a godsend.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:18 pm
by DrDonkeyLove
Here's how crate "training" went with us

Wife: We should crate train, I hear it's best
Me: I don't like the idea but maybe
Us at pet store: This seems big enough but not too big (apparently too big is bad because it's not cozy enough)
Us: Let's put his blankets & stuff on the pad w/a nice pillow
Dog: WTF are these assholes doing with my blanket???
Us: Go on, go in and give it a try.
Dog: WTF is this thing?
Us: Shut & latch door
Dog: Sad face
Dog 90 seconds later: ZZZZZZzzzzzzz

Boxer #2 will eat the pad so we just doubled up on blankets for her.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:29 pm
by louburr
shoot the dog then shoot yourself

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:43 pm
by buckethead
Nappy will tell you to have treats on hand when you come home and to celebrate those 'disasters' instead of trying to discipline your pup. He'll also say that creates are cruel and you should let the dog sleep between you and your wife.
I think

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:52 pm
by seeahill
About 50% of my dogs liked the crate. The others: no way.

Here's what I did. On the low portion of my fence the dog might jump, I had a carpenter make one foot high additions to the height, in separate two foot long sections. They were simply on top of the fence. not attached. You can push them off with a slight pressure from your palm. The dog will jump and pull the fence over on himself.

It's worked for me and worth a thought.

If you want pix, I can probably PM them, if I can figure that out.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:54 pm
by buckethead
Watch out for a hidden cock shot in those fence pix

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:57 pm
by seeahill
BucketHead wrote:Watch out for a hidden cock shot in those fence pix
Says my friend of the silk lingerie.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:49 am
by newguy
louburr wrote:shoot the dog then shoot yourself
I don't own a gun.
seaahill wrote:Here's what I did. On the low portion of my fence the dog might jump, I had a carpenter make one foot high additions to the height, in separate two foot long sections. They were simply on top of the fence. not attached. You can push them off with a slight pressure from your palm. The dog will jump and pull the fence over on himself.
Interesting idea.........I may have to work on something like that.

My other idea is to wait until she starts jumping up there and every time she does squirt her in the face with a sprayer.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:53 am
by seeahill
Like you're going to be there every time she jumps.

Re: Dog Question/Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:57 am
by Protobuilder
protobuilder wrote:Get rid of the dog.

Dogs are filthy.
This thread should have ended here.