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Only privileged Liberal White People would describe this as Poverty

Gee, why can't we all live on $5,000 a year, buy cheap land, build hobbit holes and spend our vacations surfing in Hawaii? I suspect Dan Price, one of the "Poor" profiled in this moonbat story, has never been visited by county code enforcement.

Heah, I'm all for the simple self sufficient lifestyle; but the biggest obstacle to this is (1) government building codes.

Just ask this guy what happens when government bureaucrats in code enforement find out you're living on the cheap and engaging in a little self sufficiency:

NO self sufficiency for you!

It only took the NC state legislature and the State Governor to bail his hide out from being ass raped by his local code enforcement douchebags. Plus, it didn't hurt that old Eustace is some what famous. Those of us that aren't famous, politically connected or rich? Yep, you guessed it. We're fucked!

So remember that, when you're out campaigning for Barryo, dumspter diving and living in a Hobbit hole. You're only one visit away from county code enforcement from being homeless. For your own good of course.

I know a sustainability guy who built a small Japanese cabin in a forest in Oregon. The supposition was that, at some point, the authorities would find it, force him to tear it down, and he'd build another one someplace else.

Rich fucking white people problems. Lived that way for a year on the side of a fucking mountain in Afghanistan. No thanks I'll take my central A/C and carpeted floor.

Batboy2/75 wrote:Only privileged Liberal White People would describe this as Poverty

Gee, why can't we all live on $5,000 a year, buy cheap land, build hobbit holes and spend our vacations surfing in Hawaii? I suspect Dan Price, one of the "Poor" profiled in this moonbat story, has never been visited by county code enforcement.

Heah, I'm all for the simple self sufficient lifestyle; but the biggest obstacle to this is (1) government building codes..

Are these federal building codes? Or state/local?

Ever watch Holmes on Homes? See what sort of crap gets thrown up when unscrupulous builders blow off code?

Most code is "written in blood", codifying lessons learned the hard way.

In SERE school they profiled a guy that built a hobbit hole home in an urban park. He hid it so well, that by time the authorties caught up with him, he'd been living there for several years. Burning green wood gave him away. The guy had a hobbit hole that would have made Bilbo Baggins proud.

Of course, the local authorities were not going to let this stand. The guy was hunted down, thrown in jail and promptly signed up for government assiatnce once he was out.

Batboy2/75 wrote:In SERE school they profiled a guy that built a hobbit hole home in an urban park. He hid it so well, that by time the authorties caught up with him, he'd been living there for several years. Burning green wood gave him away. The guy had a hobbit hole that would have meds Bilbo Baggins proud.

Of course, the local authorities we not going to let this stand. The guy was hunted down, thrown in jail and promptly signed up for government assiatnce once he was out.

Damn...

nafod wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:Only privileged Liberal White People would describe this as Poverty

Gee, why can't we all live on $5,000 a year, buy cheap land, build hobbit holes and spend our vacations surfing in Hawaii? I suspect Dan Price, one of the "Poor" profiled in this moonbat story, has never been visited by county code enforcement.

Heah, I'm all for the simple self sufficient lifestyle; but the biggest obstacle to this is (1) government building codes..

Are these federal building codes? Or state/local?

Ever watch Holmes on Homes? See what sort of crap gets thrown up when unscrupulous builders blow off code?

Most code is "written in blood", codifying lessons learned the hard way.

I've having a bit of fun, but if I want to live in a hole in the ground I should be left alone. Now, if I try to sell my dilapidated mud hole to someone? Yes, step in and tell me no fucking way or have the idiots buying the property sign a waiver that they are voluntaruly buying a mud hole and all of the problems associted with it.

Much different situation than your local scam artist contractor ripping off grandma that wanted a sit in shower installed.

The county claims that it received an anonymous complaint of an unpermitted building at Turtle Island from a local resident, denying that an initial inspection performed prior to the "raid" was prompted by anything seen on the show "Mountain Men."

Conway claims otherwise, however, telling the Watauga Democrat that Planning and Inspections Director Joe Furman had indeed mentioned the show to him and the "unacceptable things" that he had seen on it during a phone conversation prior to the inspection. I should also mention that a major housing development is in the works near Turtle Island and Conway, well, he's sitting on top of some pretty valuable land.

It would be a shame — a highly ironic one at that — if Conway's participation in, off all things, a reality television show, was the impetus for the random code crack-down.

"I believe our founding fathers would do anything to come back and get in on this one," Conway says of the fracas.

Our founding fathers would have done the same thing-- allowing valuable land to go underutilized is a cardinal sin.

Price’s version of the simple life costs $5,000 a year, which he earns from publishing a wilderness zine and doing odd jobs around Joseph, his eastern Oregon town. “I like being able to do what I want to do,” said Price, who pays $100 a year for his land. “I don’t believe in houses or mortgages. Who in their right mind would spend their lifetime paying for a building they never get to spend time in because they are always working?”

I was poor for years. Ain't no nobility in it. Just helplessness, passivity and spending a lot of time on stupid shit.

Building codes aren't a liberal invention; nor is living off the land or below one's potential means. In a lot of places if you build out in the country for yourself there aren't building codes to worry about anyway. We're 2/3 of the way through a divorcee's 10k sq ft dream house on 200+ acres, 20 minutes from a good-sized town/50 minutes from a large city. No inspections to speak of.

In any case, why are you pissed because some hippies want to live below their means or in non-traditional ways? Who gives a fuck? I don't see anyone in the article demanding that all of us follow along - me, I'll pay for A/C and high-speed Internet. Nothing but respect for people willing to live in 12' square cabins off the grid. Not my life, but good for them.
If you're pissy at "intentional poverty," that's the work of a writer trying to draw page views, not their fault.


Does it make your rage easier to handle if you just lump everything you disdain into a silly little word and then scream at it?

milosz wrote:Building codes aren't a liberal invention; nor is living off the land or below one's potential means. In a lot of places if you build out in the country for yourself there aren't building codes to worry about anyway. We're 2/3 of the way through a divorcee's 10k sq ft dream house on 200+ acres, 20 minutes from a good-sized town/50 minutes from a large city. No inspections to speak of.

In any case, why are you pissed because some hippies want to live below their means or in non-traditional ways? Who gives a fuck? I don't see anyone in the article demanding that all of us follow along - me, I'll pay for A/C and high-speed Internet. Nothing but respect for people willing to live in 12' square cabins off the grid. Not my life, but good for them.
If you're pissy at "intentional poverty," that's the work of a writer trying to draw page views, not their fault.


Does it make your rage easier to handle if you just lump everything you disdain into a silly little word and then scream at it?

You're a complete dumbass. You've taken too many donkey punches to the head from your boyfriend. If you'd take break from being a cockholster, you'd realize that I was mocking the author of the article. Plus, having fun to boot!

I absolutely dig the way these people live. I'm just pointing out it's not poverty and the moment your new lifestyle draws the attention of the local authorities, you're toast.

Fucking cunt!

Batboy2/75 wrote:Only privileged Liberal White People would describe this as Poverty

Gee, why can't we all live on $5,000 a year, buy cheap land, build hobbit holes and spend our vacations surfing in Hawaii? I suspect Dan Price, one of the "Poor" profiled in this moonbat story, has never been visited by county code enforcement.

Heah, I'm all for the simple self sufficient lifestyle; but the biggest obstacle to this is (1) government building codes.

Just ask this guy what happens when government bureaucrats in code enforement find out you're living on the cheap and engaging in a little self sufficiency:

NO self sufficiency for you!

It only took the NC state legislature and the State Governor to bail his hide out from being ass raped by his local code enforcement douchebags. Plus, it didn't hurt that old Eustace is some what famous. Those of us that aren't famous, politically connected or rich? Yep, you guessed it. We're fucked!

So remember that, when you're out campaigning for Barryo, dumspter diving and living in a Hobbit hole. You're only one visit away from county code enforcement from being homeless. For your own good of course.

Oregon, as opposed to North Carolina, is a blue state full of liberals who value the individual's right to choose. He will be fine.

Batboy2/75 wrote:

nafod wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:Only privileged Liberal White People would describe this as Poverty

Gee, why can't we all live on $5,000 a year, buy cheap land, build hobbit holes and spend our vacations surfing in Hawaii? I suspect Dan Price, one of the "Poor" profiled in this moonbat story, has never been visited by county code enforcement.

Heah, I'm all for the simple self sufficient lifestyle; but the biggest obstacle to this is (1) government building codes..

Are these federal building codes? Or state/local?

Ever watch Holmes on Homes? See what sort of crap gets thrown up when unscrupulous builders blow off code?

Most code is "written in blood", codifying lessons learned the hard way.

I've having a bit of fun, but if I want to live in a hole in the ground I should be left alone. Now, if I try to sell my dilapidated mud hole to someone? Yes, step in and tell me no fucking way or have the idiots buying the property sign a waiver that they are voluntaruly buying a mud hole and all of the problems associted with it.

Much different situation than your local scam artist contractor ripping off grandma that wanted a sit in shower installed.

I have a dream of building my own boat and sailing it around the world, or at least the Chesapeake, and I've got a treehouse in my backyard (kids think it is theirs) that has to be classified as a temp structure to be legal, so I feel his pain. At the same time, a lot of poorly designed tree houses and boats have thinned out the gene pool, so I get that side of it too.

Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

Until the never sleeping rimless eye of the state focuses on you. Better hope you don't injure one of the midget trannies you frolick with. That little domestic disurbance call could really spiral out of hand when the state discovers that you don't have a permit for that laundry room/rape dungeon.

Batboy2/75 wrote:

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

Until the never sleeping rimless eye of the state focuses on you. Better hope you don't injure one of the midget trannies you frolick with. That little domestic disurbance call could really spiral out of hand when the state discovers that you don't have a permit for that laundry room/rape dungeon.

Man you need to come down where every district went red. No one gives a fuck about what you do. You'd love it. We dont' have big deer but they are good eating.

By the way, this is the boat I want to build.



It's designed this way.

When I was about 10 I wanted to be the kid from the book My Side Of The Mountain. Now having a bunch of people counting on me keeps me from running off and trying to be Kephart. I envy that hobbit hole.

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

My parents live in a red state and needed to change plans or an outbuilding on land they have owned forever - I believe that they needed to move it six inches in one direction or the other.

Terry B. wrote:

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

My parents live in a red state and needed to change plans or an outbuilding on land they have owned forever - I believe that they needed to move it six inches in one direction or the other.

I'm sure there are a lot of places like that around here if you live in the larger towns but in rural areas and most small towns it's just not an issue.

^ For now. Do you know about Obama's little Coouncel on Rural Affairs, where one of the stated goals is to bring them more in line with suburban and urban America?

EPA is gearing to push emission standards against fucking woodstoves.

I know it sounds like Conspiracy theory but when you have a half nigger from 2 commies, raised by her commie parents and then funded by ragheads now running the Executive branch and obviously cares more about letting Beaners march on the Mall but spends more money on keeping people out of memorials built with private money than on security and upkeep when everything is open it might make you say "Hmmm?"

He wants us all like Tony white Hipsters, kowtowing to every dirt-head idea, apologising for superior ancestors than the hoard has and needing the government to wipe our asses for us.

Ed Zachary wrote:

Terry B. wrote:

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

My parents live in a red state and needed to change plans or an outbuilding on land they have owned forever - I believe that they needed to move it six inches in one direction or the other.

I'm sure there are a lot of places like that around here if you live in the larger towns but in rural areas and most small towns it's just not an issue.

AFAIK it's only an issue when you sell. But it was already there when you bought the place right?

My experience, from working in the trades, was that code enforcement was strong on new construction, but very selectively enforced otherwise. Meant more work for me, so I did't complain.

Ed Zachary wrote:

Terry B. wrote:

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

My parents live in a red state and needed to change plans or an outbuilding on land they have owned forever - I believe that they needed to move it six inches in one direction or the other.

I'm sure there are a lot of places like that around here if you live in the larger towns but in rural areas and most small towns it's just not an issue.

They live in a place that is just as rural as you do - honestly, I don't remember what the issue was but remember the request was something like 10.5 feet instead of 10 feet away from the road.

Terry B. wrote:

Ed Zachary wrote:

Terry B. wrote:

Ed Zachary wrote:Move to real 'murika. I had a laundry room built on and all I did was hire a contractor and I never heard from the city. And if you live in a rural area nobody gives a fuck what you do.

My parents live in a red state and needed to change plans or an outbuilding on land they have owned forever - I believe that they needed to move it six inches in one direction or the other.

I'm sure there are a lot of places like that around here if you live in the larger towns but in rural areas and most small towns it's just not an issue.

They live in a place that is just as rural as you do - honestly, I don't remember what the issue was but remember the request was something like 10.5 feet instead of 10 feet away from the road.

Oh that's a right of way issue. I live in town. It's just a small town. I'm sure when I go to put a storm shelter in my front yard I'll have to get it approved. My laundry room/rape dungeon was built off the back of the house.

DARTH wrote:^ For now. Do you know about Obama's little Coouncel on Rural Affairs, where one of the stated goals is to bring them more in line with suburban and urban America?

EPA is gearing to push emission standards against fucking woodstoves.

I know it sounds like Conspiracy theory but when you have a half nigger from 2 commies, raised by her commie parents and then funded by ragheads now running the Executive branch and obviously cares more about letting Beaners march on the Mall but spends more money on keeping people out of memorials built with private money than on security and upkeep when everything is open it might make you say "Hmmm?"

He wants us all like Tony white Hipsters, kowtowing to every dirt-head idea, apologising for superior ancestors than the hoard has and needing the government to wipe our asses for us.

This has already been done in Britain.

One of the principle instruments in this countries marxist revolution these past 50 years has been the psychotic use of "health and safety" legislation to control and dictate the little people's lives.

Everything that's happened here I see happening in the US now with Obama and his communist buddies. Frightening.