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What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:06 am
by Batboy2/75

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:25 am
by Batboy2/75
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSooz2wXpes[/youtube]

Dead Americans? Who gives two shits! The annointed one has an election to win.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:28 am
by Master_Blaster
This shit makes my blood fucking boil. I don't dwell on it though because between Obama and Hilary they have single handedly ensured a Republican President for the next several elections.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:39 pm
by nafod
Benghazi was fubar, a covert operation gone south, terribly handled by the Obamastration. I'd obviously left Africa by then, but it still hurt to see that shit go down.

But I also keep things in context. Benghazi was a screwup, but it is also just raw meat only for a lot of low information folks on the right. Here's 5 "B"s for the five Americans who lost their lives in Benghazi.

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Here's a 'Q' for every American who lost his life in Iraq (5000), which was the stupidest war this country has probably ever fought, it pains me to say. I was in the fight and know some of the Q's to boot. I could rattle off a number of Benghazi-equivalent disastrous losses of life. Lined up in rows of 100 each.

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Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:16 pm
by Ryan
Master_Blaster wrote:This shit makes my blood fucking boil. I don't dwell on it though because between Obama and Hilary they have single handedly ensured a Republican President for the next several elections.
I hope this is true, but look at the last election.

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:50 pm
by Protobuilder
The GOP has less than three years to get rid of the Tea Party element, move toward the center and position themselves so that a more centrist politician could lead their ticket. As long as the major requirements for being the party's nominee are a love for Jesus and a deeper love for guns, they aren't going to have the numbers they would need.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:13 pm
by Batboy2/75
OHHH, Special Ops! Do tell Nafod. Is this like your 1,00 rounds of experience with a M-4?


1) An American Embasador was murdered. Less politely, he was captured, sodomized, left for dead, and died in a Hospital. Not to mention the other American that died.
2) Everyone on the ground was aware that Al Queda was operating in Benghazi and informed Wadhington DC
3) Security was comically weak and hampered by the State department
4) Every indication is more security was requested, even begged for, but turned down
5) Even when the shit hit the fan, the administrations response was paralysis.
6) We can thank a CIA response team for disregarding orders. Otherwise it more Americans would have died.
7) The administration lied and let a crazy (but inocent) man sit in jail for half a year. For making a video no one watched, until the adminsitration.
8) They continued to lie, even to the families of the dead Americans.
9) Not one single person responsible lost their jobs. A lot of military personnel that wanted to do something and voiced their opinions did, but not a single State department person lost their jobs. They just reshuffled the deck and landed some place else within the government machine.

No one is comparing Benghazi to Iraq. We aren't at war with Lybia, However, since you bring it up. If this had happened at a military compound or patrol base, heads would have rolled up and down the chain of command. As a matter of fact in Afghanistan a Marine General was releaved of command and disciplined for insurgents gaining access to an airbase.

Not a single high ranking Administration official has lost anything (i.e. HILLARY) for their incompetance. Saying the buck stops with you and actully taking responsability are two different things.

Fucking phutz!

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:20 pm
by Master_Blaster
Batboy2/75 wrote:OHHH, Special Ops! Do tell Nafod. Is this like your 1,00 rounds of experience with a M-4?


1) An American Embasador was murdered. Less politely, he was captured, sodomized, left for dead, and died in a Hospital. Not to mention the other American that died.
2) Everyone on the ground was aware that Al Queda was operating in Benghazi and informed Wadhington DC
3) Security was comically weak and hampered by the State department
4) Every indication is more security was requested, even begged for, but turned down
5) Even when the shit hit the fan, the administrations response was paralysis.
6) We can thank a CIA response team for disregarding orders. Otherwise it more Americans would have died.
7) The administration lied and let a crazy (but inocent) man sit in jail for half a year. For making a video no one watched, until the adminsitration.
8) They continued to lie, even to the families of the dead Americans.
9) Not one single person responsible lost their jobs. A lot of military personnel that wanted to do something and voiced their opinions did, but not a single State department person lost their jobs. They just reshuffled the deck and landed some place else within the government machine.

No one is comparing Benghazi to Iraq. We aren't at war with Iraq. However, since you bring it up. If this had happened at a military compound or patrol base, heads would have rolled up and down the chain of command. As a matter of fact in Afghanistan a Marine General was releaved of command and disciplined for insurgents gaining access to an airbase.

Not a single high ranking Administration official has lost anything (i.e. HILLARY) for their incompetance. Saying the buck stops with you and actully taking responsability are two different things.

Fucking phutz!

This. Comparing IRAQ w/ Benghazi is apples and Oranges. Unjust war? sure. Chemical weapons? Probably never existed. But let's not kid ourselves and label any Conflict Post WWII righteous or no.

What is absolutely disgusting is Hilary Clinton's response when put in the hot-seat. Washington knew there was a problem adn chose to Ignore it. Batboy summed it up, if the Benghazi incident had taken place on a FOB? Everyone from the top down would be relieved. of duty.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:23 pm
by Bob Wildes
Batboy2/75 wrote:OHHH, Special Ops! Do tell Nafod. Is this like your 1,00 rounds of experience with a M-4?


1) An American Embasador was murdered. Less politely, he was captured, sodomized, left for dead, and died in a Hospital. Not to mention the other American that died.
2) Everyone on the ground was aware that Al Queda was operating in Benghazi and informed Wadhington DC
3) Security was comically weak and hampered by the State department
4) Every indication is more security was requested, even begged for, but turned down
5) Even when the shit hit the fan, the administrations response was paralysis.
6) We can thank a CIA response team for disregarding orders. Otherwise it more Americans would have died.
7) The administration lied and let a crazy (but inocent) man sit in jail for half a year. For making a video no one watched, until the adminsitration.
8) They continued to lie, even to the families of the dead Americans.
9) Not one single person responsible lost their jobs. A lot of military personnel that wanted to do something and voiced their opinions did, but not a single State department person lost their jobs. They just reshuffled the deck and landed some place else within the government machine.

No one is comparing Benghazi to Iraq. We aren't at war with Iraq. However, since you bring it up. If this had happened at a military compound or patrol base, heads would have rolled up and down the chain of command. As a matter of fact in Afghanistan a Marine General was releaved of command and disciplined for insurgents gaining access to an airbase.

Not a single high ranking Administration official has lost anything (i.e. HILLARY) for their incompetance. Saying the buck stops with you and actully taking responsability are two different things.

Fucking phutz!
I saw the piece you started the thread with on 60 minutes last night. I was surprised that 60 Minutes ran a piece that was so obviously critical of the current administration.

It should , but most probably won't, become a hot button issue in the United States.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:25 pm
by TerryB
Bob Wildes wrote:I saw the piece you started the thread with on 60 minutes last night. I was surprised that 60 Minutes ran a piece that was so obviously critical of the current administration.

It should , but most probably won't, become a hot button issue in the United States.
An embassy stormed. An Ambassador murdered.

And nothing but a big yawn for the most part, from everyone except some on the right, who are only interested to the extent it helps them win an election or two.

It's crazy to me, the whole thing.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:52 pm
by nafod
Master_Blaster wrote:This. Comparing IRAQ w/ Benghazi is apples and Oranges.
I'm comparing Obama's incompetence in decision making and leadership with Bush's incompetence in decision making and leadership. Bush's was orders and orders of magnitude worse. Orders and orders of magnitude more Americans died due to that incompetence in deciding to go in, and in execution. Last checked, the politicians kept their jobs in that one too.

My mom posted this fake picture purportedly of Ambassador Stevens' body getting abused to her Facebook page, so Kudos to the right wing spin machine for message control, but down the shitter goes the credibility.

Bats. you probably forwarded this one on too.

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Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:00 pm
by Batboy2/75
As usual nothing of substance from Nafod. Just excuses for the regime.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:03 pm
by Master_Blaster
Is this one fake too?


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Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:14 am
by Protobuilder
protobuilder wrote:
Bob Wildes wrote:I saw the piece you started the thread with on 60 minutes last night. I was surprised that 60 Minutes ran a piece that was so obviously critical of the current administration.

It should , but most probably won't, become a hot button issue in the United States.
An embassy stormed. An Ambassador murdered.

And nothing but a big yawn for the most part, from everyone except some on the right, who are only interested to the extent it helps them win an election or two.

It's crazy to me, the whole thing.
The public's attention span is...forgot what I was going to post but something like that.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:52 pm
by Cave Canem
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yr7odFUARg[/youtube]

Uh.......No

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:12 pm
by DARTH
Cave Canem wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yr7odFUARg[/youtube]

Uh.......No
Ha! Ha! Ha! "Knows the Military.." Yeah from the military people I know who worked at the White House when she was first cunt, she knows fuck all about anything to do with the military or warfare and treats people in uniform like shit and with contempt.

Just as bad as the commie in there now.

I'd love to see the Military rise up and take these fools down and let Congress know that before they get to run the country again, the Bill of Rights will not be subverted upon penalty bullet to the back of the head and exploding out the face.

Re: What Difference does it make!

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:13 am
by johno
nafod wrote:Benghazi was fubar, ...
But I also keep things in context.

Here's a 'Q' for every American who lost his life in Iraq (5000), which was the stupidest war this country has probably ever fought,...

Apparently your context doesn't reach even the Vietnam War, where the US suffered 10 times greater combat deaths.