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Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:45 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
I saw a fake testimonial the other day for a product (I knew the testifier at the time of his purchase and knew he saw no benefit).

Just saw your name referenced on Tim Ferriss's blog:
Tim Cahill, founding editor of Outside magazine and a brilliant travel writer himself, has said of Vagabonding, “I think this is the most sensible book of travel related advice ever written.”
Is that right?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:01 pm
by Batboy2/75
Grandpa's Spells wrote:I saw a fake testimonial the other day for a product (I knew the testifier at the time of his purchase and knew he saw no benefit).

Just saw your name referenced on Tim Ferriss's blog:
Tim Cahill, founding editor of Outside magazine and a brilliant travel writer himself, has said of Vagabonding, “I think this is the most sensible book of travel related advice ever written.”
Is that right?

Is Timmay paying Ferris for product placement?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:02 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
if this is true...PERMABAN.

Ferris needs to be gutted live on Fox News

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:15 pm
by Batboy2/75
Timmay; say it ain't true?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:40 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
To be clear, this was a review of a book Ferriss likes and bought some of the rights to, not a Ferriss book.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:36 pm
by Batboy2/75
Grandpa's Spells wrote:To be clear, this was a review of a book Ferriss likes and bought some of the rights to, not a Ferriss book.

Well we know that Tim's books don't sell that well. The exception is as firewood subsitutues, door jams, & table levelers.

IMO this is just Tim's way of trying to get a couple more sales by riding the shirt tails of the Ferris clown train.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:52 pm
by Protobuilder
Grandpa's Spells wrote:To be clear, this was a review of a book Ferriss likes and bought some of the rights to, not a Ferriss book.
and, it's a fairly good book.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:37 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
Well...

shit....


I still think we should gut T. Ferris on television.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:36 am
by tough old man
Ferris is getting his own TV show....

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:43 am
by Batboy2/75
tough old man wrote:Ferris is getting his own TV show....

That would be his second.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:36 pm
by Batboy2/75
The title of this post is funy if you immagine Shatner yelling Seahill; like in the wrath of Khan.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:00 pm
by seeahill
That is a correct quote. I wrote it ten years ago about a book called Vagabonding by Rolf Potts, who is a good guy and a good writer. It is not about a Ferris book. The quote stands, but the book needs to be updated. Needs more on cell phones, digital communication... That sort of thing.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:40 pm
by Mickey O'neil
Did you really start Outside magazine?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:43 pm
by Batboy2/75
Mickey O'neil wrote:Did you really start Outside magazine?

Was it as gay when you helped found it or did it morph on it's own?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:40 pm
by Thud
Batboy2/75 wrote:The title of this post is funy if you immagine Shatner yelling Seahill; like in the wrath of Khan.
I think it's great that "seahill" is a writer but his peers can't even read his name right, let alone spell it. All the time people are calling him Seahill" or "Seehill".

It's see.a.hill. I'm guessing fashioned (by a bored Timmy, in 5th grade math class) from "c" "a" "hill" = Cahill. Cute little double meaning, as in, he see's a hill, any hill, and feels compelled to charge it.

Just my hunching...

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:43 pm
by seeahill
I was one of three people who came up with the concept, prototype and first issue. It was under the Rolling Stone umbrella at the time. (I was one of two people who worked at RS who actually liked to go out and camp and climb and kayak so I was obviously a guy to work on the concept.) We didn't have focus groups or test marketing or any of that shit. Our concept was simple: good writing about the out of doors.

The first issue was a big success and the magazine was a go. I went from writing and editing at Rolling Stone to writing and editing at Outside.

RS sold Outside and I stayed with Outside. (I had just written Buried Dreams, my serial killer book and --- even though it was a best seller --- decided I didn't want to ever spend any more time inside the head of a sick puppy like that). I moved to Montana and did most of my work for Outside.

At it's best, in the late 90s, Outside won the National Magazine Award for General Excellence three years in a row. We were up against mags like the New Yorker, Atlantic, Nat. Geo. Best magazine in America, according to our peers. Three years running.

In 2001, the publisher pissed off the entire editorial staff (long story) and they all quit, en masse. I stopped working for them as well. So, since about 2002, it's a whole different staff and mostly different writers.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:53 pm
by TerryB
Has anyone started a magazine about the indoors?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:01 pm
by seeahill
Thud wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:The title of this post is funy if you immagine Shatner yelling Seahill; like in the wrath of Khan.
I think it's great that "seahill" is a writer but his peers can't even read his name right, let alone spell it. All the time people are calling him Seahill" or "Seehill".

It's see.a.hill. I'm guessing fashioned (by a bored Timmy, in 5th grade math class) from "c" "a" "hill" = Cahill. Cute little double meaning, as in, he see's a hill, any hill, and feels compelled to charge it.

Just my hunching...
You are correct. Though the name first came to me in Guyana when I covered the Jonestown massacre. The guy who checked my passport on the way in thought my name was C.A. Hill.
When I started using the web, I got too many people writing me. "Read my manuscript" and the like. So Seeahill is a disguise that I thought friends could figure out. Most can't. I have morons for friends.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:02 pm
by seeahill
protobuilder wrote:Has anyone started a magazine about the indoors?
Penthouse?

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:52 pm
by Gav
seeahill wrote: I was one of two people who worked at RS who actually liked to go out and camp
Tim, you've been here long enough not to encourage Shape like that.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:29 pm
by Shapecharge
Timmah, Gav is right. We've been avoiding it for too long. Let's do this.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:34 pm
by seeahill
Shapecharge wrote:Timmah, Gav is right. We've been avoiding it for too long. Let's do this.
Gav can bring the Vaseline.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:13 pm
by buckethead
seeahill wrote:
Shapecharge wrote:Timmah, Gav is right. We've been avoiding it for too long. Let's do this.
Gav can bring the Vaseline.
I doubt Gav needs vaseline anymore

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:39 pm
by Protobuilder
Outdoor keeps sending "free" issues to addresses that I haven't lived in for many years. When contacting them, I find that their customer service reps were obviously taken from people who were let go by the airline industry because they simply didn't have the people skills.

Re: Seahill!

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:42 am
by Gav
BucketHead wrote:
seeahill wrote:
Shapecharge wrote:Timmah, Gav is right. We've been avoiding it for too long. Let's do this.
Gav can bring the Vaseline.
I doubt Gav needs vaseline anymore
A man of experience. I see you know your stuff.