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Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:08 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
I avoid the news, but the recent downgrade of Kansas by Moody's and blaming of it on Gov. Brownback is getting chirped about a lot.
Is this a fair blaming? It appears that Kansas elected Brownback and an extremely conservative legislature. They slashed tax rates, revenues plummeted, the economy is a disaster, and they are under-performing relative to the country as a whole as well as their neighbors. Much is made of how CA is crushing it, but they've got a pretty different economy compared to Kansas, I would think.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:15 pm
by buckethead
He only has one constituent and that constituent thinks he's doing great.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:30 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
buckethead wrote:He only has one constituent and that constituent thinks he's doing great.
I think they call them the Koch brothers because there are two of them.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:30 pm
by buckethead
I'm talking
Constituent
He [Brownback] recalled a Bible study session with a U.S. Senate chaplain, who asked each member of the group how many constituents they had.
"He said, 'May I suggest to you that you all just have one constituent, and that's God. And if he's happy, then everything's going to be good. And if he isn't, it probably doesn't matter.' So I left there and I thought, you know, that's a great idea. One constituent."
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:34 pm
by Turdacious
buckethead wrote:I'm talking
Constituent
He [Brownback] recalled a Bible study session with a U.S. Senate chaplain, who asked each member of the group how many constituents they had.
"He said, 'May I suggest to you that you all just have one constituent, and that's God. And if he's happy, then everything's going to be good. And if he isn't, it probably doesn't matter.' So I left there and I thought, you know, that's a great idea. One constituent."
He doesn't say that God is happy with his performance in the statement you quoted.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:45 pm
by Turdacious
My guess is that CA has improved because Moonbeam is a far more fiscally astute governor than either liberals or conservatives give him credit for, and because tax revenue out of Silicon Valley are higher than projected. CA is still losing middle class population, non-tech jobs and companies, and is facing a serious drought. Not sure whether their progress is sustainable, especially now that the bullet train is back on track to become a massive money pit.
I'm not sure the polls out of KS are worth much.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:13 am
by Gene
Grandpa's Spells wrote:I avoid the news, but the recent downgrade of Kansas by Moody's and blaming of it on Gov. Brownback is getting chirped about a lot.
Is this a fair blaming? It appears that Kansas elected Brownback and an extremely conservative legislature. They slashed tax rates, revenues plummeted, the economy is a disaster, and they are under-performing relative to the country as a whole as well as their neighbors. Much is made of how CA is crushing it, but they've got a pretty different economy compared to Kansas, I would think.
Troy doesn't like conservatives. Water is wet. 1+1=2.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:33 am
by johno
Hailing from Illinois, Spells just wants to share the economic wisdom that has made his home state the crown jewel of the US.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:49 am
by Jonny Canuck
Turdacious wrote: My guess is that CA has improved because Moonbeam is a far more fiscally astute governor than either liberals or conservatives give him credit for, and because tax revenue out of Silicon Valley are higher than projected. CA is still losing middle class population, non-tech jobs and companies, and is facing a serious drought. Not sure whether their progress is sustainable, especially now that the bullet train is back on track to become a massive money pit.
I'm not sure the polls out of KS are worth much.
The drought can't be that bad. People are still watering their lawns, washing their cars, golfing, etc.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:20 am
by Grandpa's Spells
Kansas? Brownback?
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:05 pm
by Turdacious
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Kansas? Brownback?
Hyperlink at bottom of my last post.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:14 pm
by Bud Charniga's grape ape
Jonny Canuck wrote:
The drought can't be that bad. People are still watering their lawns, washing their cars, golfing, etc.
They probably shouldn't be.
The CA State Water Resource Control Board recently (July 15, they went into effect about a week later, I think) issued emergency regulations prohibiting certain water uses, punishable by a $500 fine. Watering your lawn is still OK, so long as water doesn't run off onto the sidewalk or a neighboring property. Washing your car is still OK, as long as your hose is fitted with an automatic shutoff valve. Many golf courses in CA are already watered with non-potable water. All of this is pretty meaningless, anyway, because 80% of water use in California is agricultural, and no politician in this state has the power to stand up to the growers.
If the drought continues for another year or so, less in some areas, we're probably looking at mandatory rationing.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:08 am
by johno
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Kansas? Brownback?
If you want to talk about it, start your own thread. Don't try to hijack this one.
Re: Brownback, Kansas, & the Tea Party
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:27 am
by buckethead
johno wrote:Grandpa's Spells wrote:Kansas? Brownback?
If you want to talk about it, start your own thread. Don't try to hijack this one.
