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Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:02 pm
by Jonny Canuck
Any ideas as to how I can out a fake navy seal? I have utilized navy seal experience and pow network and have a copy of his military records.
The person in question is my boss, I plan on quitting tomorrow to work for a competitor.
Life is to short to work for someone that you don't trust.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:03 pm
by Dux
message me what you have and I will explain further.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:08 pm
by tough old man
Call the seal museum. They can vet anyone who agreed to have their records public
Steve Robinson RM2(SEAL)
USN 1970-1978
SEAL Team ONE
Inshore Undersea Warfare Group ONE
Defense Analyst – Soviet Threat specialization 1981-1993
UDT-SEAL Association - Member
POW Network Board of Directors
Naval Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing Journalist
Disabled American Veterans - Life Member
FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team
CyberSEALs.org - Webmaster
edit: I knew I had his contact info
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:10 pm
by Jonny Canuck
Dux, I will send you the files tomorrow after I quit.
I have requested no further action from pow network and navy seal experience. I know that once I give them the go ahead, they proceed with their protocol.
I highly recommend both groups if anyone else is in a similar situation.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:13 pm
by Yes I Have Balls
Don Shipley (an ex-SEAL) on Facebook and Youtube outs these idiots as a hobby. His videos and funny and ruthless.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:32 pm
by buckethead
Kill him and sue his widow
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:37 pm
by Jonny Canuck
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Don Shipley (an ex-SEAL) on Facebook and Youtube outs these idiots as a hobby. His videos and funny and ruthless.
Shipley runs navy seal experience an we have already been in contact. They were the first group I reached out to. I heard of them through igx.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:59 pm
by JamesonBushmill
buckethead wrote:Kill him and sue his widow
?????
profit, then run for office
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:11 pm
by Jonny Canuck
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Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:22 pm
by Jonny Canuck
I just got off the phone with Don S. He has my former boss on audiotape claiming to be a SEAL. Fuck did Don sound pissed when he called me after. I guess my old boss hung up on him. Word of advice, never hang up on Don S. Side-note, I was served a cease and desist from my former employer this morning. This is going to get really ugly.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:50 pm
by johno
Jonny Canuck wrote:cease and desist
In Canada, isn't the truth a valid defense for defamation/libel?
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:56 pm
by Jonny Canuck
johno wrote: In Canada, isn't the truth a valid defense for defamation/libel?
You are correct. Problem is....I live in the states.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:01 am
by Bud Charniga's grape ape
Same in the us. Truth is an absolute defense, and burden is on plaintiff to prove falsity
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:04 am
by Jonny Canuck
Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:Same in the us. Truth is an absolute defense, and burden is on plaintiff to prove falsity
The cease and desist relates to my non-compete.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:13 am
by Bud Charniga's grape ape
Well that's a different issue!
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:34 am
by DrDonkeyLove
Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:Well that's a different issue!
And an expensive one!
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:55 am
by syaigh
Well, I consulted with a big shot attourney (friend of one of my clients) when my asshole gym owner threatened to sue me for non-compete. The attourney (who I would have normally had to pay a shitload of money to) told me that non-competes are VERY hard to actually enforce. And to do so, the complainant would have to drop the cost of securing an attourney, which is usually around 25,000.
IGX lawyers? What do you say.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:17 am
by Jonny Canuck
State of jurisdiction is Illinois and employers have lost 4 big cases at the appellate level over the past couple of years. I'm not to concerned at this point. The firm representing my former employer doesn't even have a labor or employment lawyer on staff. I think they are posturing.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:37 am
by Protobuilder
Jonny Canuck wrote:Any ideas as to how I can out a fake navy seal? I have utilized navy seal experience and pow network and have a copy of his military records.
I see a guy around town that wears a Bulls jersey and I KNOW, deep in my heart, he has never played for the team. I'm going over old rosters from ESPN and have PMd a guy I know online to help out this insane bastard.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:48 am
by DrDonkeyLove
Jonny Canuck wrote:State of jurisdiction is Illinois and employers have lost 4 big cases at the appellate level over the past couple of years. I'm not to concerned at this point. The firm representing my former employer doesn't even have a labor or employment lawyer on staff. I think they are posturing.
Something you have on your side is "discovery" where you can query your former employer about all kinds of things under oath - including his alleged SEAL history. One would presume that he won't want that embarrassment as part of any court records.
A word to the wise, these things can take some unexpected and very expensive turns even when you are 100% right and prevail. I'm not a lawyer, just the voice of experience.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:57 am
by Hebrew Hammer
syaigh wrote:Well, I consulted with a big shot attourney (friend of one of my clients) when my asshole gym owner threatened to sue me for non-compete. The attourney (who I would have normally had to pay a shitload of money to) told me that non-competes are VERY hard to actually enforce. And to do so, the complainant would have to drop the cost of securing an attourney, which is usually around 25,000.
IGX lawyers? What do you say.
Other than in a few states, non-competes are reasonably easy to enforce so long as they are not for longer than, say, two years; don't cover a territory wider than the true competitive area; and the prohibited activity is what you did in your previous employment. You can defend against them, you can make it expensive, you can find leverage in different ways, but those are tough battles you'll need to fight if the employer comes after you.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:11 am
by lasalle
Not an attorney, but I have spent (and continue to spend) a fuck ton of money on them. Litigation is something you really, really want to avoid if at all possible. The lawyers will get rich, and you'll burn hours of your life and too many long nights on it.
You could be on the side of the angels, but you have no idea what the outcome will be. Avoid the fight if possible.
My two cents.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:13 am
by lasalle
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Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:27 am
by Jonny Canuck
Thanks for all the advice. I definitely don't want to litigate but I do want to out this guy in the worst way.
Re: Stolen valor
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:45 am
by Batboy2/75
I would agree that your former employer is just fucking with you. It costs really nothing in legal fees to have a letter basic employee cease and desist letter drawn up and mailed.
In CA and Washington State they can keep your from calling on or dealing with former customers & assigned territories for a period of 1-2 years. Non customers or territories are up for grabs.
I would suggest that you see if your new company will help you out in the legal department. Most non compete "Cease and Desist" letters are nothing more than (1) a reminder to abide by the terms of your non compete or (2) trying to get you out of an account you shouldn't be in anyways. However, some companies like fucking with former employees. I once had an employer try fucking with me over an non compete. My new employer stepped in and assigned my one of their in house attorney's. Once my old employer saw that an future games or litigation wasn't going to cast me anything they dropped the matter and left me a lone.