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Jon Jones

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:10 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Predictions on this one? The UFC is not sentimental. I don't think they're going to carry much water for him when he's driving drunk again and this time hurt a pregnant woman and fled the scene.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:25 pm
by Kazuya Mishima
TNB

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:27 pm
by TerryB
He's a cash cow. They'll sweep it under the rug. He'll negotiate it down to a misdemeanor.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:40 pm
by Kazuya Mishima
For JJ's sake, I hope the woman he hit wasn't black. If so, that's going to be an automatic whiplash case right there (blacks are genetically susceptible), and the dandies over at Silverstein, Goldsmith, & Lipschitz will more than gladly handle that litigation on a pro bono basis (which means the schvartze cow will get about 10% of the payout). In addition, a pregnant black woman getting hit by an SUV can cause mild mental retardation in the baby that closely mimics the effects of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Yep, Jon...you're gonna have to dish out extra for that ghetto Rainman she's got cooking in there. Probably separate lawsuits from the grandparents and father what with them being all aggrieved, and such. I hope they didn't send white cops to work the accident...that close of a proximity to white officers could easily induce PTSD in both the woman and the child. Get your checkbook out, Dana...your super-Nigger is sinking fast.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:52 pm
by Protobuilder
As long as what he did was related to what he did and not what he said, it won't be a big deal. America has a sort of "ah shucks" attitude to drunk driving and it's not something that people take seriously or get outraged about in any fashion. Now, if he said something non-PC when being arrested, his career could be in jeopardy.

A tearful apology may be required before "rehab" - people will forget within a few months.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:30 am
by seeahill
Phaedrus wrote:As long as what he did was related to what he did and not what he said, it won't be a big deal. America has a sort of "ah shucks" attitude to drunk driving and it's not something that people take seriously or get outraged about in any fashion. Now, if he said something non-PC when being arrested, his career could be in jeopardy.

A tearful apology may be required before "rehab" - people will forget within a few months.
Aw shucks attitude. Not really. A DUI can really fuck up your life. I'm old enough to remember when it wasn't a big thing. Sort of something to chuckle about. The cops might even take you home back in the 60s, early 70s. I attribute a lot of that change to MADD, mothers against drunk driving. I wanted to start a group called DAMM, drunks against mad mothers. It never took. MADD beat DAMM.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:36 am
by Grandpa's Spells
Injured pregnant lady and fleeing the scene is a bit different than getting pulled over and blowing .11, IMO. With a prior?

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:08 am
by Turdacious
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Injured pregnant lady and fleeing the scene is a bit different than getting pulled over and blowing .11, IMO. With a prior?
If Vegas thinks he draws money, it isn't.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:39 am
by bennyonesix
Uhhhh no. I know Clark County and sure they will plead a first time barely over the limit to a wet reckless like anywhere else and yeah if a person with juice blows really high first time they MIGHT pull a wet reck but whoever signs off is putting their career on the line...

And DUI + injury = you are fucked.

DUI + injury + prior + pregnant female? = congrats you get the max.

Judges and DA's are elected in Clark County.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:27 am
by Protobuilder
seeahill wrote:
Phaedrus wrote:As long as what he did was related to what he did and not what he said, it won't be a big deal. America has a sort of "ah shucks" attitude to drunk driving and it's not something that people take seriously or get outraged about in any fashion. Now, if he said something non-PC when being arrested, his career could be in jeopardy.

A tearful apology may be required before "rehab" - people will forget within a few months.
Aw shucks attitude. Not really. A DUI can really fuck up your life. I'm old enough to remember when it wasn't a big thing. Sort of something to chuckle about. The cops might even take you home back in the 60s, early 70s. I attribute a lot of that change to MADD, mothers against drunk driving. I wanted to start a group called DAMM, drunks against mad mothers. It never took. MADD beat DAMM.
If you willingly get loaded and knowingly get behind the wheel enough times you may be facing a bit of jail time. People get furious about shootings but not about drunks. Mention that if you are caught driving drunk you should never, ever drive again and listen to how loudly people whine.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:34 am
by Testiclaw
Hope the dude is kicked to the curb, because 1) I hate him, and 2) the internet meltdown would be glorious.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:38 am
by bennyonesix
Phaedrus wrote:
seeahill wrote:
Phaedrus wrote:As long as what he did was related to what he did and not what he said, it won't be a big deal. America has a sort of "ah shucks" attitude to drunk driving and it's not something that people take seriously or get outraged about in any fashion. Now, if he said something non-PC when being arrested, his career could be in jeopardy.

A tearful apology may be required before "rehab" - people will forget within a few months.
Aw shucks attitude. Not really. A DUI can really fuck up your life. I'm old enough to remember when it wasn't a big thing. Sort of something to chuckle about. The cops might even take you home back in the 60s, early 70s. I attribute a lot of that change to MADD, mothers against drunk driving. I wanted to start a group called DAMM, drunks against mad mothers. It never took. MADD beat DAMM.
If you willingly get loaded and knowingly get behind the wheel enough times you may be facing a bit of jail time. People get furious about shootings but not about drunks. Mention that if you are caught driving drunk you should never, ever drive again and listen to how loudly people whine.
True. I have a really hard time taking anyone seriously who won't admit that we as a country are ok with people being killed by drunk drivers.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:18 am
by Turdacious
bennyonesix wrote:Uhhhh no. I know Clark County and sure they will plead a first time barely over the limit to a wet reckless like anywhere else and yeah if a person with juice blows really high first time they MIGHT pull a wet reck but whoever signs off is putting their career on the line...

And DUI + injury = you are fucked.

DUI + injury + prior + pregnant female? = congrats you get the max.

Judges and DA's are elected in Clark County.
1. Patricia Donninger (look her up)
2. Floyd Mayweather

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:21 am
by bennyonesix
Neither of those situations involved DUI w/injury?

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:51 am
by Turdacious
bennyonesix wrote:Neither of those situations involved DUI w/injury?
One of them involved a big time fight-- the only thing that matters. Whether JJ can afford a first class lawyer and PR firm is the subordinate question.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:56 am
by Testiclaw
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Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:41 am
by Protobuilder
bennyonesix wrote:Judges and DA's are elected in Clark County.
I didn't know this.

He'll walk for certain.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:43 pm
by bennyonesix
Turdacious wrote:
bennyonesix wrote:Neither of those situations involved DUI w/injury?
One of them involved a big time fight-- the only thing that matters. Whether JJ can afford a first class lawyer and PR firm is the subordinate question.
It's really not enough to say that the system is corrupt therefore this guy will walk.

Repeat DUI's with injury are simply not something that DA's are willing to cut deals on. They know the rate of re-offense AND the rate of vehicular homicide. If they cut this guy a deal and a year later he re-offends and kills someone (knock on wood no jinx) then that is on them morally AND they have to deal with the press and the voters...

Look, domestic violence, non-violent drug offenses, property crimes etc then maybe... First time assault and battery? Maybe. Repeat offense violent crime? Repeat DUI w/agg factors? No.

Assuming there were people who would apply pressure to either the Judge or DA, there is no way they could make the risk worth while... The populace would LOSE THEIR SHIT OVER IT and it would be obvious the fix was in.

Bottom line, the incentives just don't line up.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:35 pm
by TomFurman
They'll decide after the fight. If he wins.. it will be swept under the rug. If he loses, they'll dump him into Bellator Hell.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:50 pm
by Turdacious
bennyonesix wrote:Look, domestic violence, non-violent drug offenses, property crimes etc then maybe... First time assault and battery? Maybe.
LOL. Vegas cares about it's economy. Case in point-- Mayweather.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:37 pm
by Grandpa's Spells
Turdacious wrote:
bennyonesix wrote:Look, domestic violence, non-violent drug offenses, property crimes etc then maybe... First time assault and battery? Maybe.
LOL. Vegas cares about it's economy. Case in point-- Mayweather.
I guess I don't follow how you think Vegas has influence on Albuquerque.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:20 am
by Turdacious
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
bennyonesix wrote:Look, domestic violence, non-violent drug offenses, property crimes etc then maybe... First time assault and battery? Maybe.
LOL. Vegas cares about it's economy. Case in point-- Mayweather.
I guess I don't follow how you think Vegas has influence on Albuquerque.
UFC Events by city:
Albuquerque- 1
Las Vegas- 90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UF ... _locations

# of the Top 10 highest grossing cards held in Vegas-- 8, including all of the top five
# of the Top 10 highest grossing cards held in Albuquerque-- 0
http://www.tsmplug.com/top-10/highest-s ... e-history/

If JJ draws money, he's golden.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:26 am
by Grandpa's Spells
UFC is stripping him of his title and he's suspended indefinitely.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:56 pm
by TomFurman
TomFurman wrote:They'll decide after the fight. If he wins.. it will be swept under the rug. If he loses, they'll dump him into Bellator Hell.
I was wrong. Cormier is in. Kinda bad when he got dominated by Bones, but he's being the trooper. Bones lost Reebok just now too.

Re: Jon Jones

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:23 pm
by Kazuya Mishima
Wow, he had the world at his fingers...how could he have been dumb enough to screw this up?

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