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Great quote I just read

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 5:57 pm
by bennyonesix
From Fogelin's introduction to the Cambridge Companion to Wittgenstein:
Furthermore, in the grip of a philosophical commitment, criticisms that should count as decisive are treated as difficulties that can be resolved only after a very long, very difficult, and, of course, extremely subtle conceptual investigation.
I find myself falling into this trap again and again. Someone points out something they claim counters my position and instead of evaluating it fairly I start to formulate ways in which I can subsume or reconcile their critique with what I "believe"...

I think one must be willing to drop whatever one believes without regret...

Almost Buddhist like...

The larger quote is interesting as well:
The parts of a philosophical perspective are intermeshed, so, even if one support is dislodged others remain to bear its burden. Worse yet, under pressure philosophical positions can mutate into new positions embodying the same basic misapprehensions. Furthermore, in the grip of a philosophical commitment, criticisms that should count as decisive are treated as difficulties that can be resolved only after a very long, very difficult, and, of course, extremely subtle conceptual investigation. For these and other reasons, only a complete global reorientation can break the spell of a picture that holds us captive. Invoking a comparison with relativity theory, Wittgenstein puts it this way: "(One might say: the axis of reference of our examination must be rotated, but about the fixed point of our real need)"

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:12 pm
by Shapecharge
I anticipate this thread will take off much like the "super-blender" thread in the review section. Just sit tight and watch it explode. Fascinating.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:37 pm
by buckethead
Wittgenstein often skipped breakfast

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:49 pm
by Shapecharge
He was also down with having random people piss on him too.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:51 pm
by TerryB
Get back to me when you can convert that quote into symbolic logic.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:01 pm
by nafod
If you really want to see the effect, tell someone "you're wrong and you're an idiot". You immediately have attached their self worth to the right or wrongness of their point of view. Then stand back and watch.

I call it giving them a philosophical golden shower.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:21 am
by syaigh
Try being a woman. Everything you say will be reduced to "nice tits" or "I hate feminists" or "wanna fuck?".

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:25 am
by bennyonesix
Lol Cry me a river you Highland Games Champion Supermodel Smart Ass. Ell Oh Ell!

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:26 am
by TerryB
syaigh wrote:Try being a woman. Everything you say will be reduced to "nice tits" or "I hate feminists" or "wanna fuck?".
DTF?

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:27 am
by bennyonesix
BTW, I am gorgeous.

I mean like head turningly beautiful.

And I agree, it ain't easy.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:38 am
by syaigh
bennyonesix wrote:BTW, I am gorgeous.

I mean like head turningly beautiful.

And I agree, it ain't easy.
You poor thing. I feel your pain. For realz.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:38 am
by syaigh
bennyonesix wrote:BTW, I am gorgeous.

I mean like head turningly beautiful.

And I agree, it ain't easy.
You poor thing. I feel your pain. For realz.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:40 am
by bennyonesix
I demand that you take me seriously!

And you can try looking in my eyes when you talk at me.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:40 am
by syaigh
E2>200 wrote:
syaigh wrote:Try being a woman. Everything you say will be reduced to "nice tits" or "I hate feminists" or "wanna fuck?".
DTF?
Did the finish?

didn't take first?

died trying failure?

dogs trap ferrets?


???

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:41 am
by syaigh
bennyonesix wrote:I demand that you take me seriously!

And you can try looking in my eyes when you talk at me.
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Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:52 am
by bennyonesix
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Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 5:53 am
by DARTH
syaigh wrote:Try being a woman. Everything you say will be reduced to "nice tits" or "I hate feminists" or "wanna fuck?".
Shit, at least you get one compliment and an offer of a good time. 2 out of 3 aint bad! ;-)

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:30 pm
by TerryB
syaigh wrote:
E2>200 wrote:
syaigh wrote:Try being a woman. Everything you say will be reduced to "nice tits" or "I hate feminists" or "wanna fuck?".
DTF?
Did the finish?

didn't take first?

died trying failure?

dogs trap ferrets?


???
seriously???

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:08 pm
by syaigh
I honestly didn't know what it meant. [-(

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 3:38 am
by Mickey O'neil
I love it when syaigh plays coy.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 3:43 am
by bennyonesix
I award syaigh's posting style a Beer Can Chicken made with Boh Ice.

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Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 12:28 pm
by TerryB
hmmm....I wonder....

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 1:39 pm
by bennyonesix
If you were wondering how much Gary John charges for a photo shoot like that.... it's $50 and the beer.

I got an unsolicited creepy PM about it 3 minutes after I posted that.

Re: Great quote I just read

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:59 pm
by TerryB
bennyonesix wrote:If you were wondering how much Gary John charges for a photo shoot like that.... it's $50 and the beer.

I got an unsolicited creepy PM about it 3 minutes after I posted that.
5/10