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let's wait until the facts are all out before we make any rash accusations.

Good thing he didn't have an assault rifle. Somebody might have been hurt.

Schlegel wrote:Good thing he didn't have an assault rifle. Somebody might have been hurt.

He had.

80 dead plus over 100 severely injured so far. The terrorist was from Tusinian descent but was born and raised in Nice.

Wild Bill wrote:

Schlegel wrote:Good thing he didn't have an assault rifle. Somebody might have been hurt.

He had.

Not according to reports I'm seeing. And gun or no gun, the truck was all he needed. it's a tactic that's been used before, it's effective for murdering random harmless civilians, which is pretty much the sine qua non of terrorism.

Schlegel wrote:Good thing he didn't have an assault rifle. Somebody might have been hurt.

Glad to see you hugging your loved one

nafod wrote:

Schlegel wrote:Good thing he didn't have an assault rifle. Somebody might have been hurt.

Glad to see you hugging your loved one

I've been watching politicians "working", it's making me extra cynical and snarky this election cycle.

Schlegel wrote:

nafod wrote:

Schlegel wrote:Good thing he didn't have an assault rifle. Somebody might have been hurt.

Glad to see you hugging your loved one

I've been watching politicians "working", it's making me extra cynical and snarky this election cycle.

I don't know what the news is on this, but based on the video I watched last night, I believe the guy shot his way through a roadblock before getting down to business with his truck. May be wrong, but that is what it looked like on the amateur video I saw. Standing by to be corrected by the facts.

He did have guns. A strange point to argue over but they are the facts if interested. 10 children dead thus far.

BBC says he had a pistol, but also other fake guns and a fake grenade. The fake stuff seems weird. Some kind of plan he didn't decide to follow?

The NY Times has this crazy graphic...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... rance.html

Schlegel wrote:BBC says he had a pistol, but also other fake guns and a fake grenade. The fake stuff seems weird. Some kind of plan he didn't decide to follow?

Sounds like his family was trying to get him mental health assistance recently. It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You know....at a certain point, right or left, we're going to have to start taking people who profess a consistent ideology at their word.

Doesn't matter if they're crazy, or lying, or grew up poor or they are just misguided in their interpretation of the Koran, when a community (however loosely affiliated) consistently points to a source of inspiration, you gotta take a fucking real sharp look at the people who align themselves with it.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

It's not so much that it's a unique situation that some unhinged Jesus Freak blows up a Planned Parenthood and kills a couple nurses. That's terrorism and that's murder. We get that....the real insidious pile of shit floating in our cultural bathtub is the fact some otherwise decent hardworking regular Xtian folk look at that and say, "Well. that's kinda terrible and all, but I see his point."

I've sat in an actual church listening to a debate by parishioners on whether it would have been a sin if he ONLY blew up the building but didn't kill anyone. Fuck No Motherfuker...it's terrorism full stop.

People within Islam, zealots to moderates, are the audience here....Not Us. Not the West and for the grand majority that are revolted by it, there is a massive, swelling body of support for it. So parsing motives case by case is getting a bit stale. We know the motives. A crazy Merchant Warrior Pederast actually bothered to write it down.

SubClaw wrote:The terrorist was from Tusinian descent but was born and raised in Nice.

Tusinia is a deadly place.

SubClaw wrote:80 dead plus over 100 severely injured so far. The terrorist was from Tusinian descent but was born and raised in Nice.

Born in Tunisia in 1985 and emigrated to France in 2005. Arrested for road rage in France where he threw a pallet at the other driver.(edited the location for his roadrage)

SubClaw wrote:80 dead plus over 100 severely injured so far. The terrorist was from Tusinian descent but was born and raised in Nice.

double post

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote: It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

I meant early indications are he appears to have been non-religious and didn't have the typical paths to radicalization available, but was mentally ill. That could be bullshit, of course

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote: It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

I meant early indications are he appears to have been non-religious and didn't have the typical paths to radicalization available, but was mentally ill. That could be bullshit, of course

ISIS type groups must certainly provide a welcome gravitational pull to homicidally mentally ill or just plain evil muslims. Would love to see a shrink knowledgeable in the psychology of evil provide an analysis of the emotional triggers that are tripped by ISIS propaganda. I bet they're more similar than dissimilar to those used by Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote: It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

I meant early indications are he appears to have been non-religious and didn't have the typical paths to radicalization available, but was mentally ill. That could be bullshit, of course

There really has been a rash of non-religious guys named Mohammed going off their meds and killing people. Someone should do something.

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote: It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

I meant early indications are he appears to have been non-religious and didn't have the typical paths to radicalization available, but was mentally ill. That could be bullshit, of course

ISIS type groups must certainly provide a welcome gravitational pull to homicidally mentally ill or just plain evil muslims. Would love to see a shrink knowledgeable in the psychology of evil provide an analysis of the emotional triggers that are tripped by ISIS propaganda. I bet they're more similar than dissimilar to those used by Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.

I'm not 'exactly' a psychiatrist but I've spent a LOT of time with one, so I'm pretty well-versed.

The "psychology of evil"?

Don't be dumb.

It's pretty simple. End of the world. Hatred. Vengeance. Join the gang. Become someone today!

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote: It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

I meant early indications are he appears to have been non-religious and didn't have the typical paths to radicalization available, but was mentally ill. That could be bullshit, of course

ISIS type groups must certainly provide a welcome gravitational pull to homicidally mentally ill or just plain evil muslims. Would love to see a shrink knowledgeable in the psychology of evil provide an analysis of the emotional triggers that are tripped by ISIS propaganda. I bet they're more similar than dissimilar to those used by Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.

The lone actors remind me of the anarchists of the 1890s, running around killing folks (including President McKinley) for pretty much no reason other than they were angry unemployed losers easily manipulated by ideology.

Czolgosz had lost his job during the economic Panic of 1893 and turned to anarchism, a political philosophy adhered to by recent killers of foreign leaders. Regarding McKinley as a symbol of oppression, Czolgosz was convinced that it was his duty as an anarchist to kill him.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:It's not so much that it's a unique situation that some unhinged Jesus Freak blows up a Planned Parenthood and kills a couple nurses. That's terrorism and that's murder. We get that....the real insidious pile of shit floating in our cultural bathtub is the fact some otherwise decent hardworking regular Xtian folk look at that and say, "Well. that's kinda terrible and all, but I see his point."

It takes a lot of brain-washing not to see abortion as child-murder; but then again, I fell under that spell for many decades, so I'm not really in a position to condemn others for it now.

Shaf said something along the lines of "if everyone was fucking someone that they were really into on a regular basis it would fix a lot of these problems."