Why Don’t You Just Let Us Hold On To That
Customers leave a struggling waitress a $12,000 tip. Thinking they may have accidentally left it behind, the waitress calls the police. When the deadline for someone to claim the money passes, the police then tell the waitress that, well, they’re going to keep the money, because it’s probably drug money. They do generously offer to giver her $1,000 for letting them seize her cash.
Of course, even if it was drug money, the waitress had nothing to do with the drug crimes behind the money. And once the cash was given to her, I think most reasonable people would agree she should be allowed to keep it (the exception would of course be if it had been stolen).
But the legal fiction underlying civil asset forfeiture is that the property is guilty of the crime. So if the money was used in a drug transaction (and some jurisdictions now even argue if the money will be used in a transaction at some point in the future), the money itself is at fault, and must be forfeited, no matter who happens to be in possession of it.
Once the cash is deemed guilty, the government gets to keep it. And spend it on government things.
I guess at that point the cash is no longer guilty. It’s just dirty.
All your Tips are belong to us.
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I'll bet she feels safer though...
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"Probably" drug money just doesn't cut it. What basis do they have for coming to that conclusion? Too bad she can't complain or else the pigs will make her life a living hell.
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Doesn't everything belong to the Gov't? And we citizens should be grateful for whatever the Gov't lets us keep?
And those who make "too much" should be leveled?

And those who make "too much" should be leveled?

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I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
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vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
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Tsk Tsk. Stick with Lodge pans. Mine are so well seasoned I can flip an egg.Blaidd Drwg wrote:vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
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You wouldn't believe the shit that goes on with tips.vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
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I love my cast iron skillets but I've given up cooking eggs in them. I have to scrub the damn pans so hard afterward to remove the egg residue that it takes off all the seasoning. Tips?Jezebel Jones wrote:Tsk Tsk. Stick with Lodge pans. Mine are so well seasoned I can flip an egg.Blaidd Drwg wrote:vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
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Stop scrubbing them. Wipe them out with paper towels. If you *must* clean them out do it with a sponge and hot water, no soap. Put them on a hot burner to dry and then re-oil with bacon grease. Skip the eggs for a bit. Stick with bacon and other greasy food, wipe out in between. Eventually it'll season enough that you can cook anything in it.protobuilder wrote:I love my cast iron skillets but I've given up cooking eggs in them. I have to scrub the damn pans so hard afterward to remove the egg residue that it takes off all the seasoning. Tips?Jezebel Jones wrote:Tsk Tsk. Stick with Lodge pans. Mine are so well seasoned I can flip an egg.Blaidd Drwg wrote:vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
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Instead of thunk.
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The great thing is that now she has to give 1/3 of $11k to an attorney, and will now have to claim the $12k on her taxes.
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Turdacious wrote:The great thing is that now she has to give 1/3 of $11k to an attorney, and will now have to claim the $12k on her taxes.
They gonna getcha one way or another...
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Let me just say, as a guy who pretty much grew up in restaurants, that I will never give that guy a penny. Stealing your employees tips is about as low as you can go.vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about Batali.
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I've never worked in the food service industry, but I'm fascinated by the waiter blogs. You can learn a lot about human nature from reading them. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to justify stiffing servers.
Screw Batali.

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I used to read a New York waiter's blog religiously. I've never understood treating the people that serve you like shit simply because of what they do. Strangely enough a lot of waiters/watresses I know hate to see a table full of knee grows seated in their section.vern wrote:I've never worked in the food service industry, but I'm fascinated by the waiter blogs. You can learn a lot about human nature from reading them. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to justify stiffing servers.
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Where I work (I won't mention the name, but a famous NY steakhouse that I've named previously), we are required to kick back to the management or they fuck with us vis a vis partners, stations and which customers they put in our station. However if anyone is "caught" tipping a manager, they are fired automatically and the union won't support us. Oddly enough, no one has ever been caught.Ed Zachary wrote:I used to read a New York waiter's blog religiously. I've never understood treating the people that serve you like shit simply because of what they do. Strangely enough a lot of waiters/watresses I know hate to see a table full of knee grows seated in their section.vern wrote:I've never worked in the food service industry, but I'm fascinated by the waiter blogs. You can learn a lot about human nature from reading them. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to justify stiffing servers.
Screw Batali.
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My oldest son used to manage a steakhouse in Dallas and he watched but couldn't do much as a retired NBA player and hall-of-famer left a 10.00 tip on an 800.00 meal. He kicked the server a hundy from a little slush fund they kept for just such things. I would sucker punch him if I ever ran into him.
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Links to said waiter blogs?
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When I was waiting, catering and bar tending in college, I hated seeing Jews, Chinese and Filipinos at my tables or coming to the bar.
Jews were so stereotypically cheap it was almost comical. I quickly found out why my Dad said the Chinese were known as the Jews of Hawaii when he was growing up, and Filipinos are just disgusting people.
Jews were so stereotypically cheap it was almost comical. I quickly found out why my Dad said the Chinese were known as the Jews of Hawaii when he was growing up, and Filipinos are just disgusting people.
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I'm gonna start my own and get you a link.Mickey O'neil wrote:Links to said waiter blogs?
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I find that Chinese are incredibly cheap. Its not that they tip badly so much as that they will get two steaks for five or six people and take all night to eat them.baffled wrote:When I was waiting, catering and bar tending in college, I hated seeing Jews, Chinese and Filipinos at my tables or coming to the bar.
Jews were so stereotypically cheap it was almost comical. I quickly found out why my Dad said the Chinese were known as the Jews of Hawaii when he was growing up, and Filipinos are just disgusting people.
As for Jews, although I once started a jew hate thread based on how they tip, I was just fucking around. They can be hit or miss but when I was Long Island some of my better regulars were jews.
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Mickey O'neil wrote:Links to said waiter blogs?