johno wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:57 pm
newguy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:39 pm
I have no problem with a path to citizenship for people who have been here. The government let them be here. They are here working, going to school, etc. etc. Having kids, raising families, all that.
What does it serve me to kick them out now? It's not their fault the government let them be here.
Let them stay, work, pay taxes.
DACA is an immediate and irreversible improvement for 12,000,000 illegal border crossers.
Status Quo until the Border is secured for at least five years. Then consider something like DACA.
Otherwise you are suggesting the deeply stupid move: An irreversible deed in exchange for a promise by a lying politician.
Forget the politics for a moment though. Let's say you and I are responsible for trying to work out a border agreement. We are not liars, our words are binding, etc. No politics.
I am willing to go in with you for full secure border. 100%. Part of that for me is fully funding and expanding the judiciary that oversees it along with stronger prosecution/sanctions for businesses that exploit immigrant labor. But I am good with complete security and no exceptions.
To get that, which is important, you wouldn't be willing to consider working with me on allowing a certain group of people who are here illegally a path to citizenship?
It seems to me it would be a compromise worth making. I am talking about people who are here, are working, are doing the right things. People who we have allowed to be here.
Either that or we end up staying where we are at, which is a situation neither of us wants.
Again - not a republican democrat congress argument. I get the whole dynamic there.
A thought experiment.