The couch thread

[Holland Oates]

Craig Smith is a fucking beast.

He's the reason I started doing Zerchers about a year and a half ago.

Of course I only found out who he was after I found out he'd married Kara Bohigian.

My best full Zercher lift was 405 and that was off the floor. Deadlift to the knees, sitting it across my legs and hooking the arms to finish the lift.

That would fucking kill me now days.

[Blaidd Drwg]

If someone were to do "Grace" and double the weight to 270lbs,..

Then he wouldn't be doing Grace

let's get this straight...you're not defending crossfit's brostasically stupid way of measuring "work"... you're just defending their naming conventions?

I'll defend it. The measures make sense to me. But here's what they should really do.

1. Pick an exercise. Say the Clean and Jerk
2. Pick a time interval for the exercise. Anywhere from 5 seconds (1 rep) to 5 minutes (lots of reps)
3. Let the exercisee pick a weight.
4. Count how many reps were done in the interval
5. Figure out how many BTUs were burned which would depend on number of reps, weight, and a few other things. Goal is to max the energy burned, which also maxes the average power output over the interval. The gamesmanship is in picking the weight. Too heavy and you get too few reps (Poddle's 270 LB Grace). Too light, and you're not doing any work.

doesn't your ellipitical trainer have a calorie readout?

[Blaidd Drwg]

Craig Smith is a fucking beast.

He's the reason I started doing Zerchers about a year and a half ago.

Of course I only found out who he was after I found out he'd married Kara Bohigian.

My best full Zercher lift was 405 and that was off the floor. Deadlift to the knees, sitting it across my legs and hooking the arms to finish the lift.

That would fucking kill me now days.

bottom up with 405 is legit.

Kara makes me as hard as a diamond.

[T200]

[Fish]

God damn. How is a girl that cute that fucking strong?

[Holland Oates]

I'd like to lick her where she pees.

[Kraj]

Kraj,

What's wrong with the Zercher squats? Starting each rep with a pause from the lower thigh is a perfectly legitimate way of doing them. While I do think that I let my hips rise rather fast, that's not such a terrible thing seeing as how I'm using them primarily as a deadlift assistance movement. 3x130kg isn't an amazing set, but it's a shitload more than I could do a few months ago and I'm proud of it.

The video of the Vibrams was for a demonstration on a blog post of mine about the shoes. I've already gotten one guy email me to thank me for the info, so it was not a worthless video.

Piss off, fuckpuddle.

The whole point of the zercher deadlift is the extended range of motion. You have to bend much further down to pick up the weight. If you're starting your zercher from your lap then you're using less range of motion than even a normal deadlift, thus making your little exercise pointless.

And next time you decide to talk smart, go fuck yourself you weakass little ginger piece of potato-starving shit.

[Kraj]

hey krunt, try one and tell us how you do.

observe the diezllll

I can zercher dead easily. I also regularly zercher dead sandbags by bending all the way down, hugging the sandbag and lifting it. The extended range of motion is what it's all about. Your links are to zercher SQUATS, which are only done as a way to front squat more weight than could be held in a traditional front squat manner. The zercher DEADLIFT is all about bending down all the way to lift the weight, unlike Patty McShitCake over here is doing:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWN6KmXuiQ[/youtube]

And then someone who actually knows what the fuck they're doing instead of being a leprachaun-fucking ginger fruitcake:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsWIjx7p2GM[/youtube]

[Holland Oates]

I believe there is a pretty significant difference in the amount of weight being moved in those videos.

Good lift POD. I enjoyed the hate as well.

Krunt must be a closet Cultfitter since he believes the lighter lift is a better lift.

[Kraj]

I believe there is a pretty significant difference in the amount of weight being moved in those videos.

Good lift POD. I enjoyed the hate as well.

Krunt must be a closet Cultfitter since he believes the lighter lift is a better lift.

Tough talk for someone who hasn't done shit, fitnesswise, Ed. I'll lift the ginger cumrags 286 lbs in PROPER Zercher deadlift form, meaning FROM THE GROUND, not from the fuckin' lap like some pussywhipped shitsicle, and then I'll post it on YouTube like the attention-whoring Irish fruitcake did.

That's what pisses me off about some of you tards. You're more than willing to rag on CrossFit, but you're not willing to be honest with yourselves. That's bitch-status as far as I'm concerned. I'm all about being real. I rag on CrossFit but I also keep it real as far as I'm concerned. I don't live in some fantasy land where I'm lifting shit off my lap and calling it a Zercher. That's just as bad as lifting PVC pipe and calling yourself elite.

[Holland Oates]

That's awful big talk from someone who is a made up internet persona.

LOL

You talk about being real and all you do is spew bullshit.

Kraj life coach, Kraj the mountaineer, Kraj the strongman, Kraj the ninja. What are you going to pretend to be next Kraj? A pirate? A doctor? An astronaut? Keep dreaming little Kraj someday you'll be somebody.

I mean when you aren't busy pretending to be a woman in chat rooms.

Oh wait maybe Rant never left. You could very well be yet another Rant sock puppet. Wouldn't that be spiffy. A Rant sock puppet arguing with an accused Rant sock puppet.

It's the fucking internet Kraj. None of this shit is real.

Hell I'm actually a 56 year old paraplegic with a gay wrestling fetish. I'm almost as pathetic as you. Oh wait no I'm not. Since I don't surf the tubes of the interwebs to play pretend. I'm just killing time while I get payed to sit at home and go to the gym.

You shouldn't get so worked up Kraj it's not good for your blood pressure.

[Blaidd Drwg]

nice work Krunt, your tampon is hanging a might low. young POD has properly tagged his vid as a zercher squat.

the whole point of a zercher deadlift is one thing.
the whole point of a zercher squat is another, and
one can argue that the whole point of a bottom up zercher squat from pins or the knee is yet again something else.

at any rate, your ability to "take us all to school" while shitting on your own shoe is pretty classic IGX material.

[powerlifter54]

God damn. How is a girl that cute that fucking strong?

Great genetics, great technique, killer attitude, excellent coaching, small amounts of PEDs.

[Mountebank]

Zerchers of any type have nada to do with @F hate...take it to another thread in the TF, for fuck's sake.

More doucherosity:

Sometimes your ride stalls. Sometimes your Risk Retention Group hits a plateau, just 19 days away from becoming a reality. Sometimes your training gets stuck in gear and you hit no new PRs. What do you do? What's your best tip for busting out of a plateau?

Only $50,000 left to raise!

About 320 affiliates are on board. Mike's Gym has succumbed. If they even make it to the $500K marker, do they seriously think these affiliates as a whole are going to want to drop another $200-$500 per year for premiums and to pay for their much-necessary back-up insurance?

Back on point, people. We're wandering.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

I've done zercher squats in the past, and some full zercher/spiders off the floor. Didn't get a lot out of them except bruised as fuck arms.

[Blaidd Drwg]

God damn. How is a girl that cute that fucking strong?

Great genetics, great technique, killer attitude, excellent coaching, small amounts of PEDs.

Maybe Kara could do an @fit seminar on proper dosages...cuz she's getting more out of hers

[SAR]

"Fucktard" is being way overused lately. Mix it up a little. Keep it fresh. Try something like "swine choad." It's got much more pop to it. If someone said to me "hey, fucktard," I'd say "hey, penis breath," but if someone said to me "hey, swine choad," I'd shove a phillips-head screwdriver in their ear and twist. Mix it up is all I'm saying.

Agreed. I think "cocksucking jizzweasel" merits more frequent usage.

[TerryB]

The zercher DEADLIFT is all about bending down all the way to lift the weight, unlike Patty McShitCake over here is doing:

Good God POD, get yourself some milk and steak you thin-limbed faggot.

[Kraj]

You're right. I just noticed that Pood's video says Zercher SQUAT. My bad. Still doesn't change the fact that some of your are total dicks. If you've got something against me, come out and say it. Don't hide like a pussy and then pile on when it's fashionable to do so.

I've said from the start that Patrick Donnelly is a ginger fuckwad. He was supposedly totally into CrossFit and now he's on here acting big and talking shit about them. That's being a treacherous backstabbing asshole as far as I'm concerned. I don't have any sympathy for traitors, even when they're traitorous to my enemies.

[POD]

I've said from the start that Patrick Donnelly is a ginger fuckwad. He was supposedly totally into CrossFit and now he's on here acting big and talking shit about them. That's being a treacherous backstabbing asshole as far as I'm concerned. I don't have any sympathy for traitors, even when they're traitorous to my enemies.

"Totally into CrossFit" is an exaggeration. I was never near coughing up a grand for a cert, nor did I ever follow the posted workouts, etc. I was very strongly influenced by them, but I still worked independently and on my own goals (despite the fact I did a craptastic job at doing so). I was never fully inebriated on the CrossFit Kool-Aid and I was drinking less and less of it as my second year on the forums progressed. It was the first take I gotten at real training, so yes, I was pretty into it, at one point even thinking that it would be cool to open an affiliate gym, but as I began to learn about more stuff (for example, weightlifting), I realized how full of shit it was.

Also, how many guys here at one point posted on the CrossFit boards or did their workouts? It's not just me.

Good God POD, get yourself some milk and steak you thin-limbed faggot.

I'm working on that. It's been a long climb from 140lbs up to 210lbs.

About 320 affiliates are on board. Mike's Gym has succumbed. If they even make it to the $500K marker, do they seriously think these affiliates as a whole are going to want to drop another $200-$500 per year for premiums and to pay for their much-necessary back-up insurance?

Back on point, people. We're wandering.

HyperfitUSA also given in.



After yesterday's revelation about a double-weight Grace, I realized something even more absurd today. If you were to do a 270lb variation of Grace with a sandbag, you'd still have to do it in two minutes to have a world record work capacity! Not only does Glassman's cockamamie work capacity concept not acknowledge the work involved in static holds or horizontal movement, but it doesn't even matter what kind of weight you use! Barbells, kegs, stones - all the same.

[Sofa King]

Gin Master, whoa whoa whoa!

Ed and me might be camping but there's no red wine and candles and shit, it's Jack Daniels and a roaring fire with some topless bitches running around all fucked up on X and xanax.

This metaphor brought a tear to my eye.

[TomFurman]

The photo of Pavel doing a Zercher with McGill watching is odd. Talking about back safety and doing a lift that has little to do with fitness is a contradiction. How many REALLY strong men never did a Zercher?

[TomFurman]

Rippetoe-"Zerchers are for crazy people"

[Blaidd Drwg]

You're right. I just noticed that Pood's video says Zercher SQUAT. My bad. Still doesn't change the fact that some of your are total dicks. If you've got something against me, come out and say it. Don't hide like a pussy and then pile on when it's fashionable to do so.

I've said from the start that Patrick Donnelly is a ginger fuckwad. He was supposedly totally into CrossFit and now he's on here acting big and talking shit about them. That's being a treacherous backstabbing asshole as far as I'm concerned. I don't have any sympathy for traitors, even when they're traitorous to my enemies.

Kraj. I have nothing against you. I think you are a national treasure, but it's too bad you drove Jeek away, that was fun.

Tom Ferbie,

Zerchers rule. Rippatoe is wrong.

rekanize.

[nafod]

After yesterday's revelation about a double-weight Grace...

What revelation was that. That you're a tard?