Trumpling the Truth

[Turdacious]

Serious question: Why were democrats in favor of immigration control and border enforcement during the Bill Clinton presidency, and in favor of a 700-mile border fence in 2006, but now opposed to a border wall?

Because the overwhelming amount of illegal immigration involves crossing legally and overstaying a visa. A wall does nothing to solve the problem.

Illegal immigration also has been on a steady decline, and was aggressively enforced during the Obama years anyway. This is an imaginiary solution for an imaginary problem designed to pander to the misinformed and racists.

Illegal immigration probably declined mostly because of the recession.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front ... migration/

From June 2010:

The Border Patrol is better staffed than at any time in its 85-year history, having nearly doubled the number of agents from approximately 10,000 in 2004 to more than 20,000 today.

Not sure who really deserves the credit for the boost in enforcement during the Obama years. The federal hiring and training process for LEOs probably takes two to three years so there's little chance that this was an Obama initiative. That said he could have made enforcing border security almost impossible and he didn't.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2010/06/23/fac ... next-steps

[Grandpa's Spells]

I wasn't assigning credit, only pointing out that making a declining problem your number one campaign issue is dumb, especially if your proposed solution is incredibly expensive and obviously won't work.

[Turdacious]

Ivanka Trump, juggling dual roles of White House adviser and daughter of the president, said in an interview aired on Wednesday that the United States might need to admit more refugees from Syria, a pointed public departure from one of her father’s bedrock populist positions.

Ms. Trump’s comments, which seemed to question the basis for President Trump’s two executive orders that tried to bar migrants from Syria and other predominantly Muslim nations, set off a minor scramble in the West Wing. Advisers grappled with a political problem unique to Mr. Trump’s family-business White House: how to manage an officially empowered daughter who is prone to challenging elements of the president’s conservative agenda.

“I think there is a global humanitarian crisis that’s happening, and we have to come together and we have to solve it,” Ms. Trump told NBC when asked about the refugee crisis in Syria, which has created a nativist backlash in European countries. Asked whether that would include admitting Syrian refugees to the United States, she replied: “That has to be part of the discussion. But that’s not going to be enough in and of itself.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/p ... share&_r=0

[nafod]

Trump Tower could probably hold a thousand.

[dead man walking]

Ivanka Trump, juggling dual roles of White House adviser and daughter of the president, said in an interview aired on Wednesday that the United States might need to admit more refugees from Syria, a pointed public departure from one of her father’s bedrock populist positions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/p ... share&_r=0

any thing any trump says any time is a distraction

and trump is no bedrock populist. that notion also is a distraction.

[Turdacious]

President Donald Trump on Thursday reflected on his first 100 days in office with a wistful look at his life before the White House. "I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump told Reuters in an interview. "This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN17U0CA

[Turdacious]

South Korea said the United States had reaffirmed it would shoulder the cost of deploying the THAAD anti-missile system, days after President Donald Trump said Seoul should pay for the $1-billion battery designed to defend against North Korea.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north ... =worldNews

[climber511]

One of Trump's many problems is he still thinks being President is all about "him". Only if he ever starts thinking about the people and the country will he ever become worth a damn. Being President is harder than he thought - what the hell did he think it would be?

[Turdacious]

Sebastian Gorka, a West Wing adviser to President Trump who has become a flash point for controversy, is likely to be moved out of the White House in the coming weeks for a different role in the administration, two senior administration officials said Sunday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/us/p ... .html?_r=0

[Thud]

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[nafod]

Probably thinks the South should have got a prenup

[johno]

Thing 1 - Trump is an ignoramus, and can't keep his mouth shut.

Thing 2 - If you think it's stupid to ponder whether some historical tragedy, like the Civil War, could have been prevented, you have a closed mind.

[nafod]

He wonders why they didn't use their nukes. Sad!

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Is there anyone here who is still hoo-rahing Trump or the republican majorities of Congress and the Senate now? Because this looks like the beginnings of a kleptocracy

[Herv100]

Is there anyone here who is still hoo-rahing Trump or the republican majorities of Congress and the Senate now? Because this looks like the beginnings of a kleptocracy

LOL. Killing TPP and Gorsuch alone make the first 100 days successful.

When you add in increased jobs, lowest unemployment in 10 years, lowest illegal immigration in 17 years, reducing incoming refugees, already beginning extensive cutting of regulations on small business, proposed lower corporate tax and double the deduction for families, lowered national debt 70-100 billion already, ended regime change objective in Syria, China buying US coal instead of North Korean, "why should US tax payers care about Ukraine?" -Tillerson, DOW jones up, ended retarded Obama energy policy that would eventually see your electric bill higher than your health insurance and raise the cost of goods, investigating corruption of previous administration, large cuts to the federal govt, etc it could be seen as successful for such a short amount of time.

None of that seems like a kleptocracy except to a lazy transgender commie.

[syaigh]

Is there anyone here who is still hoo-rahing Trump or the republican majorities of Congress and the Senate now? Because this looks like the beginnings of a kleptocracy

LOL. Killing TPP and Gorsuch alone make the first 100 days successful.

When you add in increased jobs, lowest unemployment in 10 years, lowest illegal immigration in 17 years, reducing incoming refugees, already beginning extensive cutting of regulations on small business, proposed lower corporate tax and double the deduction for families, lowered national debt 70-100 billion already, ended regime change objective in Syria, China buying US coal instead of North Korean, "why should US tax payers care about Ukraine?" -Tillerson, DOW jones up, ended retarded Obama energy policy that would eventually see your electric bill higher than your health insurance and raise the cost of goods, investigating corruption of previous administration, large cuts to the federal govt, etc it could be seen as successful for such a short amount of time.

None of that seems like a kleptocracy except to a lazy transgender commie.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... nts-215071

I found this about as fair as it gets.

[johno]

Is there anyone here who is still hoo-rahing Trump or the republican majorities of Congress and the Senate now? Because this looks like the beginnings of a kleptocracy

Shaf, you can't implicitly pine for a President Hillary and simultaneously tut-tut about kleptocracy.

(Now that Hillary's presidency is a burning cinder, how much do Wall Street Banks and Middle East powers pay for her speeches?)

[Grandpa's Spells]

Propaganda is a helluva drug.

[Turdacious]

White House staff called the Prime Minister's Office last month to urge Justin Trudeau to persuade President Donald Trump not to tear up the North American Free Trade Agreement, according to multiple Canadian government sources.

The unconventional diplomatic manoeuvre -- approaching the head of a foreign government to influence your own boss -- proved decisive, as Trump thereafter abandoned his threat to pull out of NAFTA unilaterally, citing the arguments made by Trudeau and Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto as pivotal.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... fta-threat

[TerryB]

LOL

"Trump's a buffoon!!" *huzzahs from everyone*

Or, stated differently, "Canadians reduced to begging Trump not to pull out (which he never intended to do anyway and is now in a stronger negotiating position to discuss the specific terms of NAFTA)"

If Castro's son had any brains, he'd have said, "Who cares? Walk from NAFTA. We don't need America."

Ooops! He didn't!

[JimZipCode]

you can't implicitly pine for a President Hillary and simultaneously tut-tut about kleptocracy.

THAT is straight up bullshit.

[johno]

you can't implicitly pine for a President Hillary and simultaneously tut-tut about kleptocracy.

THAT is straight up bullshit.

Hillary = kleptocrat. Now what is your point?

[JimZipCode]

Hillary = kleptocrat. Now what is your point?

My point is that is a fabrication and completely untrue.
What is your point?

[DrDonkeyLove]

Hillary = kleptocrat. Now what is your point?

My point is that is a fabrication and completely untrue.
What is your point?

I've never heard a good defense that the Clinton's aren't at least grifters extraordinaire or full blown kleptocrats. Perhaps you have one?