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ST. LOUIS • John Cunningham of Jennings used a shotgun to settle a fight with his uncle over cuts of pork early Monday in the 5600 block of Hiller Place, St. Louis police say.

Cunningham, 43, of the 2000 block of Wedgewood Drive in Jennings, was charged Monday with first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the death of Lessie E. Lowe, 44.

Lowe, who lived on Hiller Place, is the maternal uncle of Cunningham, police say.

The men were at a home on Hiller Place when they argued over whether the cuts of meat they were planning to cook were pork steaks or pork chops, police say. It was not clear late Tuesday which cut they had.

After the argument became physical about 1 a.m. Monday, the two had to be separated by someone else in the home, police say. Cunningham went to another part of the home, grabbed a shotgun and shot Lowe, police said.

Lowe died later at Barnes-Jewish Hospital. Cunningham was taken into custody.

L.C. Lowe of Hazelwood, who is Lessie Lowe's oldest brother and one of 17 siblings, said Lessie Lowe was a "smart young man" who liked to fix cars and make other repairs. L.C. Lowe said he wasn't at the home on Hiller Place when his brother was slain, but that he knew Cunningham and his brother were close and liked to hang around together.

ST. LOUIS • A man was charged late Wednesday in the fatal stabbing of another man in a fight over a bag of Cheetos on Tuesday night in downtown St. Louis, police say.

David L. Scott, 49, was charged today with second-degree murder and armed criminal action. Authorities say he argued with 42-year-old Roger Wilkes over the Cheetos and stabbed him once in the chest with a knife about 8:50 p.m. Tuesday in the 500 block of Washington Avenue.

Wilkes died later at a hospital.

Police had said they believed both men were homeless, but gave an address for Wilkes in the 4000 block of Delmar Boulevard and an address for Scott in the 200 block of North Ninth Street.

Police on bike patrol chased Scott and arrested him a few blocks away from where Wilkes was stabbed. Police say they also recovered a knife.

The stabbing took place near the Convention Center MetroLink station. Traffic had to go around the area for about an hour because police had crime-scene tape at both ends of the block.

Court documents filed with the murder charge list multiple previous convictions for Scott, including robbing a post office as well as counts of burglary and assault.

Just so you know, we can do savagery as well as the next afro-arabian.

So what color were these individuals?

I only ask for scientifical porpoises.

Race is a construct. They were American.

Good food to be had on "The Hill."

Otherwise, my well-traveled bad self would consider the St. Louis area one of America's rudest metros.

Fat Cat wrote:Just so you know, we can do savagery as well as the next afro-arabian.

But at least these dudes were settling legitimate disputes. Pork and Cheetos?!?! Shiiiiiit, if that ain't worth killing over, I don't know what is.

Those Jawas in the ME are just pissed at 60+ years of western intervention into their culture so we can subjugate them and take their resources. WTF beef do they have to settle?

Which side of the river did this happen on? .

Fisticuffs were had in the gym last Wednesday over whether Crappie were indeed the most delicious freshwater fish or no....to which I say..who the fuck besides negros eats freshwater fish?

Blaidd Drwg wrote:Fisticuffs were had in the gym last Wednesday over whether Crappie were indeed the most delicious freshwater fish or no....to which I say..who the fuck besides negros eats freshwater fish?

I fish for and eat freshwater fish all the time-- I wasn't aware I was black. Sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiit

Blaidd Drwg wrote:Fisticuffs were had in the gym last Wednesday over whether Crappie were indeed the most delicious freshwater fish or no....to which I say..who the fuck besides negros eats freshwater fish?

Fried catfish FTMFW.

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:Fisticuffs were had in the gym last Wednesday over whether Crappie were indeed the most delicious freshwater fish or no....to which I say..who the fuck besides negros eats freshwater fish?

Fried catfish FTMFW.

Sign in on the Coloreds Thread Comrade.

wait...i just remembered rainbows and brookies are fresh water...

nvrmnd..carry on.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:Fisticuffs were had in the gym last Wednesday over whether Crappie were indeed the most delicious freshwater fish or no....to which I say..who the fuck besides negros eats freshwater fish?

Hmm. I like salmon. Does that make me a mulatto?


PS - Crappie is damn good eatin'.

Ed Zachary wrote:So what color were these individuals?

I only ask for scientifical porpoises.

I was wondering the same thing, primarily because of the site I am reading this on.

Some crimes are clear cut - brothers have drive-by-shootings cornered though you hear of somebody shooting their former boss on Wall Street, you know it's a white guy. Somebody gets killed and eaten, you know the killer is either white or Asian - suicide bombers, well, you know.

Initial crime - no idea from the name though using a shotgun seems like a white dude thing to do and "Hiller Place" seems like a place that white people would live. Pork........probably black though if it were bacon, I could see white people doing it - white folks love their bacon. However, 17 siblings........the guy's black.

Second crime is far harder to get to the bottom of - "David L. Scott" sounds white, killing somebody over Cheetos has to be a black guy though, being that a knife was used, a Mexican can not be ruled out. He was caught in a Metro station so I have black at 2:1, Mexican at 5:1, mixed ethnicity at 7:1 and white at 9:1.

do your research, terry.

hiller place--site of the pork-induced killing--is near the greater pentecostal church, the muhammed mosque, and the third episcopal cme church. with those reference points--thanks to google maps--my conjecture is the persons involved are indeed of a race.

Home, sweet home .....rude ? Somebody took the time to be rude to you?...

Also ....Porksteaks are a big deal roun here .The most common way they are prepared is possibly the most fucked up ...they boil them in the Doctored up BBQ sauce ..foul at best ...

dead man walking wrote:do your research, terry.

hiller place--site of the pork-induced killing--is near the greater pentecostal church, the muhammed mosque, and the third episcopal cme church. with those reference points--thanks to google maps--my conjecture is the persons involved are indeed of a race.

Google search confirms racial identity.

Cheetos and pork.....this could be part of a greater conspiracy.

johno wrote: PS - Crappie is damn good eatin'.

Them's fightin' words.

knuckles wrote:Home, sweet home .....rude ? Somebody took the time to be rude to you?...

I lived there on both sides of the spectrum in the 1990's with half the time in High Ridge with all dem dear inbreds and the other half in fancy pants Creve Coeur.

Turdacious wrote:Which side of the river did this happen on? .

Both incidents occurred on the west (Missouri) side of the river. With regard to the race question, Jennings is about 80% African-American - although that's no guarantee of the race of the parties involved. Not sure about the other location, but given the area it's probably only slightly more white.

Sounds like a typical weekend around here.

Fat Cat wrote:Just so you know, we can do savagery as well as the next afro-arabian.

A few savages of a race killin' over some chitlin's and greens doesn't compare to the scale of savagery of the afro-arabians, are you a democrat?

knuckles wrote:Also ....Porksteaks are a big deal roun here .The most common way they are prepared is possibly the most fucked up ...they boil them in the Doctored up BBQ sauce ..foul at best ...

thats not fucked up

that's the best way

wtf is wrong with you?

It would be nice if a foreign power decided to liberate St. Louis.

At least no violence has marred the sacred Ted Drewes. Which is way better than the boiled pork steaks.