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Cave Canem wrote:

Drew0786 wrote:Whatever happened to AllyNYC? She was all set to compete at the Arnold and no showed and then I heard rumors she was preggo.

She and B-boy are trainers at @fit Metropolis on the upper East Side of Manhattan. They seem to be living a very low key, out of the limelight life. I would venture that 90+% of current @fitters have no clue who she is and outside of this board there is very little or dwindling interest in her.

She's doing her thing, enjoying her life and family and happy with her dude...

What more can she ask for really?

I remember hanging out with NYC @fitters and a lot of them talked shit on her calling her a "slut" and worse... I ignored it because I didn't know her, and really don't know her, but the only thing I thought was "how is she a slut being with the same dude for years?"

A lot of it was jealousy for sure, the girls talking shit were overweight or skinny and the dudes probably tried to hit on her and she said no... Plus they were friends with her ex-dude so that most likely had something to do with it.

Plus god forbid a girl is proud of how she looks and flaunts it a little bit, she is instantly branded a slut.

I'd Hit It wrote: ... she could become a nun and people would still call her a slut.

Yes I Have Balls wrote:

I'd Hit It wrote: ... she could become a nun and people would still call her a slut.

Slutty Nuns??? Instant erection

Boris wrote:Over a decade ago I was trying to find something more than a line or two about the infamous Mexico City study, but couldn't find anything. I'm pretty sure I asked Mel Siff about it too on the list serve (back when it had good traffic), but no one could come up with anything. Of course, none of that means it didn't happen, but it does make you wonder how valid the study was if it did.

Has the book "Inside the Box" (great title, I know), been mentioned here? The other day I saw it shelved prominently in the local Barnes & Noble. Thumbed through it - read like adcopy disguised as an ethnography of sorts. Probably would have bought it if I had $20 to burn.

Boris wrote:Over a decade ago I was trying to find something more than a line or two about the infamous Mexico City study, but couldn't find anything. I'm pretty sure I asked Mel Siff about it too on the list serve (back when it had good traffic), but no one could come up with anything. Of course, none of that means it didn't happen, but it does make you wonder how valid the study was if it did.

Has the book "Inside the Box" (great title, I know), been mentioned here? The other day I saw it shelved prominently in the local Barnes & Noble. Thumbed through it - read like adcopy disguised as an ethnography of sorts. Probably would have bought it if I had $20 to burn.

“We the affiliates”

I would like to start by saying I am Pro-CrossFit but publicly against the no-non compete, non territory restriction, the inability (per our affiliate agreements) to seek outside legal counsel and the cannibalism we are seeing day in and day out from affiliates all over the world. So this is going to feel like a kiss on the lips and a kick in the balls. I would also hope that I am protected under the 1st amendment to speak and write as I wish without worrying about being disaffiliated. Guys you’re not going to meet bigger proponents of this program than Freddy Camacho, Andy Petranek, Steve Rakow and I. We just happen to be either the only ones who truly care about the future and progress of this movement or the only ones who aren’t scared to speak up. However if Russell is the liaison between HQ and the affiliates we have a bigger problem to discuss. Your text is downright insulting to affiliate owners everywhere! I would get better customer service at the DMV.

The fact that we are still thirsty for more communication and some cohesion speaks volumes about the program we so strongly believe in. What we don’t want is to be tormented by rumors and to only find out when someone affiliates when they cancel their membership, stop coaching classes or take 30 students.

Communication is key. Some of you may not agree that because we have been doing this a long time we know what we are talking about, but we are veterans in this business (it is not just our hobby, our livelihood is depended on it)

I believe that the people that decided to speak up aren’t just concerned about Lahaina, but the bigger picture. We are the fitness professionals that are being impacted year after year. This is still minor in the sense that if Coach Glassman’s dream of total world domination and 30,000 affiliates comes to fruition that would mean 6x more of us on top of each other. This is the biggest thing that impacts us … nothing else effects the affiliate as negatively. It is an emotional, mental and financial drain that takes its toll on our families, communities and human system. It’s unnecessary/unwanted drama that can be fixed. What about those in it for the long haul? Those preaching the CrossFit lifestyle everywhere they turn? What happens in 5 years? 10 years? How can we forecast a future as an affiliate? Should we project annual losses at 5% to 10% year after year? Do you really want to help us, the ones who have been in it for a while or are you only concerned with sales not service?

This is want we need: Some communication, and basic operating standards. Longer affiliate commitments, Group Health Insurance, protection of our licensed affiliate name, we need to know that you have our back and won’t stack us on top of each other, because HQ was not founded on competition, it was founded on Community and this stuff is breaking communities up.

The issues we are addressing is nothing new to those of us who have come from the fitness industry it just happens to be what we hated most… secrets, lies, unethical business practices, undercutting (the $1.37 a class Groupons… WTF?) , free memberships to jump ship and betrayal from the closest ones to us.

My sole purpose of putting my head on the chopping block is to help lead the change we are all crying for. We’re not saying don’t allow an affiliate to open on my block (affiliates should make sure to get an exclusive in their building however), street or city. We’re not asking to slow down or even stop the continued growth and movement of this sport. We are the ones bringing this movement to the masses. We are however begging and pleading for some provisions, addendum and restrictions to the original plan and those that are clearly taking advantage of the free for all. We want to improve the CrossFit brand and model by setting some boundaries and common threads amongst the affiliates besides just the movement standards.

How can it be improved? Do some more research, call the local affiliates, a Google map search… and have some consequences and standards for unethical business practices (ie: new affiliates using other established affiliate names. Bring back Affiliate fest instead of paint balls and repelling lets discuss things that really matter. We speak our mind because we care, we care because this program has changed our lives and we will continue to change others lives. Our mission is to make people better; it’s time to make ourselves and our organization stronger by fixing the issues that are undeniably harmful to the future.

What went down on a small island in the middle of the pacific hits close to home and it sucks. Had a little bit of investigating work been done, had another line been added to the affiliate application like *have you ever trained or been a member of any other CrossFit in close proximity to where you are looking to open? (maybe 2 miles or less), or even a heads up email to Anthony had been made maybe this wouldn’t have happened. Instead it has ripped a community in half and it’s taken someone like Freddy to bring out change. Why am I chiming in? Because, I have indirectly contributed to this disaster as well, my center of influence is larger than my affiliate. In Hawaiian fashion I opened my doors and home for a week to the person who is moving 200 meters away from CrossFit Lahaina in an effort to progress the movement and make CrossFit Lahaina stronger not give them the tools to piggy back the momentum Anthony has built.

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience. But where he stands at times of challenge and controversy” Martin Luther King, Jr

syaigh wrote:That and Andy built his "Biz" model based on high turnover. There's a lot of effort to get people in the door, but they expect them to leave in two years. The "model" is perfectly set up for a trainer to walk out with a large group of folks when they aren't "feeling it" any more. (And the trainers get sick of working for free with no autonomy.) I see this happen on a regular basis. It is, in fact, how most of the cfs in my area have gotten here. They are all the bastard children of 3 original boxes.

Ed Zachary wrote:Yech

It was hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil until it started cutting into their bottom line.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.